I have many discs that Roon did not initially identify, and still hasn’t for over a year now. I’m trying to “curate” my Roon library to get it to the same state of completeness as my old Olive 04HD music server library (those folks had great software and user interface called Maestro - too bad they went tits up or I’d still be with them).
I’m able to edit the album titles and cover art for the discs Roon cannot identify by pulling in metadata from my Olive and Collectorz.com databases (outstanding music collector software, by the way) which include complete data on every disc I own.
The problem is trying to edit the track titles in Roon - it’s disapointingly laborious having to do it one track at a time; select the track, click on edit, type in the track title, click on save, and go to the next track, etc. etc… It was a far easier process with Maestro; I could display the Maestro and Collectorz track lists side by side and just copy and paste track titles from one to the other - done in minutes.
There doesn’t seem to be any similar capability with Roon, and no copy and paste capability, but there’s got to be a better way than the way I’m going. Please advise.
The whole point of Roon is that you don’t need to perform this kind of curating?
Can you provide an example?
What i’m getting at, is that if Roon is unable to identify an album it will use your embedded tags. If those are missing or wrong Roon cannot do much about it.
That said, the most time consuming part of Roon editing is correcting track order, and that happens, particularly with multiple cd collections and such. It REALLY needs an overhaul.
I agree Mikael, the metadata grooming function in Roon is way behind the functionality I enjoyed with the 10-year old and now defunct Olive and Maestro software. I’m less interested in all the artist, sidemen, and other paraphenalia Room offers than in getting my collection groomed properly so it displays correctly.
Here’s an example of my problem: Michael Chapdelaine’s 2 CD recording “With Love” on Time Warner, ripped as a .wav file to my Olive library. Roon found nothing when I uploaded it from my Olive backup, other than the CD ID#, no track titles, no cover art, no artist, no nothing. It’s on Amazon’s website for crying out loud, and probably on Time Warner’s! I believe the Olive found it on Gracenotes when I first ripped it.
I have another 100 or so out of more than 2000 CDs in my library that Roon didn’t, and still can’t, identify meaning I’ll be spending 100’s of hour “grooming” Roon, something I’d expect Roon to be doing for me.
Oki, now i begin to see the issue. It seems that the Olive ripping function is a bit “odd” compared to other. If you haven´t misspelled, ripping a CD to one contious WAV-file incl cue sheet will make it impossible for other metadata curators and players to identify it. If the WAVs are separate, the Olive saved its metadata in a separate library and uses the original CD to identify it originally, when ripping. When you pulled the WAV no metadata is embedded in the files.
You need a separate tag-groomer! I highly recommend Poikosofts Easy CD Converter, which enables the option to right click an album folder and “get metadata”. Is automatically finds metadata from at least two (possibly three with a GD3 license) providers and lets you chose the suitable issue. It also saves and embeds the metadata within the files som you can move them around without loosing the tags.
However, we are in agreement that Roon could improve its metadata editing capabilities. Or get rid of them totally, for me either way. I have said it before and say it again, i do NOT want another JR Media Center which does everything half good. I’d rather have an application that manages my library, play my selections to a multitude of endpoints and does that 110%.
I have been in a similar situation as yours previously, with a library tweaked to suit a particular playback solution and, hence, making it difficult to have portability and compatibility with other environments.
I don’t get the idea of getting rid of a function. My use case is we record live acts and create our own albums that will never be available commercially. This is where Roons editing function is invaluable to me. I rip with basic tags then add artists, dates, art etc in Roon. Looking forward to be able to add reviews also.
I had exactly the same issue with a Roon initial import, my classical failure was about 50% , admittedly probably due to my tagging idiosyncrasies … For that reason alone I temporarily gave up on Roon due to the work needed to sort it out.
Somewhat heretical on this forum , but have you looked at J River Media Centre. The tagging engine is superb and any tag can be saved to the actual File, as well as into a text database.
That way Roon can see the file tags and use them.
JRiver also “sees” Flac and CUE or WAV and CUE and displays them as a series of tracks. They can then be simply converted to single tracks in any format you like and re imported into Roon.
If you don’t want to buy it ($50) you get 28 days free.