eric8bits
(dark and moody)
February 12, 2023, 12:36pm
#1
I love my Focal Celestee and it was about time to play around with DSP.
So I found these oratory1990 settings:
It basically recommends:
I manually configured it as follows in Roon to match the recommendation:
Furthermore I applied the recommended preamp:
Is this the recommended way of configuring Roon?
Marin_Weigel
(Bram Stoker's Cappuchino)
February 12, 2023, 1:20pm
#2
That looks good, but I’d recommend to zip together the two sample rate family convolution .wav files and load them in Roon, instead.
Give it a try, set up DSP presets for both methods to compare on the fly, with just a short pause when switching, to see if you prefer one method.
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eric8bits
(dark and moody)
February 12, 2023, 1:31pm
#3
Check.
Can I see graphs of the results?
I would like to compare it with the oratory1990 provided graph:
My manual configuration looks like this:
Still need to figure out if it’s OK when comparing haha.
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Marin_Weigel
(Bram Stoker's Cappuchino)
February 12, 2023, 1:45pm
#4
Roon doesn’t compute a graph for a convolution file to look at - doesn’t sound any better with it anyways…
Look at the green curve in your graph to see what’s encoded in the .wav files - it’s the inverse of the response over the target.
The PEQ filters are just an approximation, so the convolution should get you closer to the desired response.
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eric8bits
(dark and moody)
February 12, 2023, 1:47pm
#5
Ok, thank you.
The manual configuration sounds better. By a lot. What could be the reason?
eric8bits
(dark and moody)
February 12, 2023, 2:00pm
#7
Haha ok.
Anyway, the difference with and without the manually configured DSP is amazing. The headphones sound so much more clear. As if I am sitting in a room with a great stereo setup. Amazing.
Marin_Weigel
(Bram Stoker's Cappuchino)
February 12, 2023, 2:06pm
#8
Okay, I’ve been pulling your leg…
Trying to understand your observation, which is contrary to mine, could you try to put your impressions into descriptive terms to reconcile, maybe?
Did you make sure, you’re not overlooking some accidental setting active in one scenario over the other?
Torben_Rick
(Torben - A Dane living in Hamburg - Roon Lifer)
February 12, 2023, 2:08pm
#9
Give the “Crinacle” .wav file a try:
https://phones.killdozer.uk/results/crinacle
Torben
eric8bits
(dark and moody)
February 12, 2023, 2:11pm
#10
The Celestee sounds great without DSP.
Configuring DSP manually with oratory1990’ settings as described in my first post makes it sound fantastic instead of great.
Then I gave the two zipped WAV files a try. Not bad sounding but not as great as the manual configuration.
I prefer the manual configuration as it has the most depth and clear sounding image. I hope that describes it best.
CrystalGipsy
(Resisting the flow!)
February 12, 2023, 5:06pm
#11
It’s the same settings though so makes no sense. When using the wavs you don’t need any headroom as it’s already been applied.
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eric8bits
(dark and moody)
February 12, 2023, 5:07pm
#12
Oops… that explains! I needed to disable the preamp…
Rookie mistake!
Marin_Weigel
(Bram Stoker's Cappuchino)
February 12, 2023, 8:29pm
#14
… not really - did you look at the graphs?
Perfect advice here, though …
As I suspected, it’s been caused by …
Good, it’s fixed now, and happy listening, @eric8bits …
… but you may want to polish your descriptive skills regarding auditory impressions, the difference mainly being different loudness.
eric8bits
(dark and moody)
February 12, 2023, 8:53pm
#15
Thanks!
I should have spent more time figuring it out I guess.
What wonders me is that I do experience such different quality when the volume is lower. Not sure what it is.