Hi, I know that genre is often a complicated topic, but I’ve noticed that Roon is here very weak. A lot of music, I prefer metal, rock, house…, is not sorted correctly at all or is tagged with everything
Sadly Sascha almost all Heavy Metal is tagged as at least Pop/Rock (when released), but it doesn’t come from Roon. It comes from the Metadata suppliers and it has been a problem since I have been a Roon user and probably longer.
I edit some of my albums to remove the erroneous genre’s especially when they are bad.
Until the record companies improve the Metadata they send out this is unlikely to improve.
I agree that there are plenty of sub genre that are terrible hard to differentiate. Some special stuuf you need to be fan or into it for classifying it correctly. But the world famous albums…even my dad (+70) is aware of…should be at least corrected. Adding info & correct genre…maybe one move? In Wikipedia Kill Em All is NOT pop/rock…so even the source of added information is clear in that. Sounds harshly, but if you charge monthly/yearly the same for ORGANISATION of music as it cost for streaming the content…I expect a minimum of detailed quality…
We have been complaining about it for years, but Roon is not the source of the information.
That comes from Musicbrainz and others.
Look at all the genre’s on the album I am currently listening too (though Bandcamp is a Tag of my making). I would say 50% at least are wrong, but it starts to get challenging with 50% is wrong
Classing by genre is always going to be flawed as everybody has different views of what it is. It’s not something that keeps me up at night. You can choose to use your own but I found it was too messy so switched to Roons genres.
Matter of opinion. For me, Metal is clearly in Rock. Among the very top level genres, it’s clearly not Jazz, Classical, or Folk, for instance. Roon genres are hierarchical, so if I want to play anything from Rock, it’s fine personally if there is Metal in it. (And Pop/Rock is the level above both Pop and Rock).
It’s not a minority view either:
But you want to make it a separate top level genre, Roon lets you do this, simply go to the genre editor for HM and click Make Top-level Genre.
And yeah, there is rarely any genre application on any service that I don’t disagree with sometimes. It’s inherently problematic and people will never agree, in the best case. Sometimes it’s just plain wrong because someone made a mistake.
But I see Roon genres not as an academic classification system, but as a way of grouping music as in “if I play this genre in shuffle, would it be OK if something from this subgenre would be played”. And then it’s much less wrong for me in practice. Although I understand that some metalhead will be unhappy if a wrong one of the endlessly differentiated metal genres is played. That’s life. Or death maybe.
Just ignore them. For all the reasons given in the posts above they can never work as a way of classifying music or deciding what to play. Rather like many of the Tivo sourced album reviews, they will only serve to irritate you because you disagree with them.