Good Morning…I’m using a Titan with my 25k track library burned to the drive, in combination with Tidal and Qobuz. Typically when I start my system each morning I choose a genre (classical) and select Roon Radio with the assumption that Roon will mix my tracks with streamed selections from T and Q, but I seem to be listening to many of the same tracks repeatedly through the week. Same holds true of my afternoon music in the Jazz genre. I’ve got approximately 5-7k tracks in each genre plus T and Q, so the mix should be random and unfamiliar. Of course I would prefer an ever-evolving mix rather than “hit-radio”. What am I missing here…do I have an inaccurate understanding of the system or or my settings incorrect? Thank you.
For this reason I don’t use the radio function. It’s just familiar stuff and repeats for me. I have smart playlists set up (for whole library, for just track picks, and also ones for every genre that suits me) that also omit any tracks that have been played in the last 3 months. - > no repeats upon using these, but it’s restricted to what’s in my (165k) library.
Thanks, David, but it sounds like constant attention is required and you’re still restricted to your library and music you chose and know. I was hoping that Tidal and Qobuz would shake things up, drawing from my library and mixing in theirs…which seems large. Odd that it repeats.
Once you’ve set the playlists up, which takes a minute each, they are smart playlists and update automatically (including automatically removing stuff you recently listened to immediately as you do so). You just have to hit play when you want them. But yes it won’t add in stuff from Qobuz and Tidal. I have however added 9,000 albums from Qobuz and Tidal to library myself (to go with 4,500 of own CDs) so there’s not much I would be interested in that’s not in there.
The actual radio function has needed serious attention for a long time IMO, is very repetitive and could easily be improved by simply playing random tracks (or allmusic track picks if you like) from [given genre].
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Very kind of you to elaborate, David…sounds like you’ve got a good system. I’ll give it a go. Thank you.
No worries. You can also restrict these to allmusic track picks for a higher quality bar. I’m sure others have other ideas and I expect Radio to improve in future seeing as it’s a selling point and is currently pretty useless (to me; repeats of well known/obvious songs is exactly what I don’t want)
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One can basically set up Polymarket bets on which is going to be the next track in Roon Radio, it’s so repetitive. Have there been any tickets created for this, so it’s on the Roon Team’s radar?
Thanks for the tip with the smart playlists, I will try that out 
I must have been misinformed, but I always thought that Roon Radio was an amalgam of Qobuz, Tidal and my library stored on my Titan, and that Q+T drew from my library to create their algorithm. Fantasy?
Roon Radio makes recommendations based not only on your own music preferences but also on those of other Roon subscribers with similar tastes in music.
That is what it’s supposed to be, yes
There are several threads here about the repetitive nature of Roon Radio. For me after about an hour of songs it starts to cycle around the same few Artists and Albums, not repeating exactly the same songs but a very narrow Radio.
This has been reported many times but no improvement even though it seems Roon have been investigating it.
See this for more details.
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It’s the second part that worries me. Like, what is the user base of Roon generally? Can’t be that big. Less than Tidal or Qobuz I’m assuming. Sample size of Roon subscribers with cash to pay for Roon subscription and hardware and with a taste in music similar to mine must be way smaller than what the streamers’ algorithm can provide.
So why leverage this kind of algorithm, when you possibly can leverage the integrated service’s of choice algorithm to feed your Radio product?
I was just trying to answer the question with the information that’s available: it’s not just the own library.
While I understand your concerns, one stated purpose of Radio is to go beyond one’s library, so clearly it has to use some additional input.
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Thank you all…good to know that senility hasn’t crept into this pleasant corner of my life. I appreciate the camaraderie and advice.
I would love if we could let Roon Radio know what we are looking for. e.g, add focus on music released pre 2020 or focus on lesser known tracks etc.
Ultimately, one’s personal library mixed with evoling and not repeating algorithmically related music drawn from subscribed streaming services in the chosen genre/subgenre would be a seemingly simple objective.
Further to this subject of Roon Radio mysteries; I have +7000 tracks in the Classical genre, yet when I select the genre in combination with Roon Radio i receive a message stating “Nothing similar found: Limiting Roon Radio to library”. Is this message relating to the individual track in play, the genre as a whole or some algorithmic mystery? And would the play then be limited to my library ongoing, or would Roon Radio attempt to connect to the next track? Any awareness would be appreciated. Thank you.