Can we get Roon 1.7 back?
Please
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what a nightmare that must be. Can’t imagine having to load different players just to play music. I’d characterise that as OCD bordering on insanity.
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Always has been this way, and frankly as much as it frustrates it’s one of Roon’s strengths not trying to be all things to everyone.
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To what end? What remains a gripe after the planned changes which have been communicated and will no doubt be deployed as soon as ready?
Replacing that early beta of 1.8 which was accidentally exposed to the crowds with the finished version of 1.8 will hopefully do the trick.
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1.8 forced me to take a closer look. I couldn’t get RAAT working with an older DAC so I abandoned that. I use HQPlayer for the filters, DSP and convolution. I use 3rd party editing and tagging tools for the library management. I use various websites and magazine subscriptions for discovery. I like roon for internet radio and for the local/Qobuz integration but when a search fails I often end up on Qobuz or Foobar and won’t bother switching back after that. Sounds like you have a more seamless experience.
Out of curiosity what DAC? Tagging I also do outside Roon, but for the most part I’m finding Roon’s metadata model has become a lot richer than I can reasonably achieve using file based tags so apart from unidentified albums it’s become moot … and I’d say was previously a “metadata groomer”. I don’t stream so Roon provides no discovery, but I’ve found twitter the best way of keeping up to date with artists I follow and also discover artists they collaborate with. Haven’t encountered any search failures, don’t often search for classical so may just be lucky.
Its an April Eximus DP1. Korean DAC. It works great with a SOtM USB card. I thought I could get it working with a SOtM SMS-200 Neo (another Korean company) so I could network it, but its 10 years old now and out of production and there will not be any Linux drivers. I’ve just gone back to the old USB connection. I have a Mark Levinson 5101 on order but that is UPnP so TBH I am not planning on RAAT with that either and it wasn’t an important decision point for me.
I personally find the software has really moved on since I was looking at roon a few years back. Streaming is really a game changer and has opened up a whole eco-system and lots of choice and niche apps. My wife likes French pop music, for example, but we couldn’t find what she wanted on either roon or Qobuz so from google we ended up on the universalmusic.fr website and found out they do great playlists you can cast to a lot of players like spotify and youtube. So we cast to youtube to get the videos. Its not high rez. To be honest I don’t know what it is but neither of us care about that very much. That’s what we are listening to now. I thought everyone mixed and matched whatever was to hand. But I guess I am wrong.
But you don’t need to be a mechanic. I’ve worked in IT a lot of years and the mechanics amongst us often have unrealistic expectations of the drivers’ skill sets.
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I think there may have been too many changes implemented all at one time with 1.8.
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Yes, and at the same time, too many strongly worded comments, which I think a bit confusing to follow.
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100%
Love the interface. Only a few tweaks needed.
IMO.
It would be interesting to understand the age demographic of the users complaining about this update…
There seems to be a total negative overreaction to this update.
I have been using the update solid, and have yet to experience a functional issue.
It seems many of the complaints are subjective GUI issues. I think roon has done a great job, difficult to please everyone…
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In other words whether or not they’re ‘in their prime’? 
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elderly folks do not like changes, but of course there are some exceptions, and there are some smart elderly ones, who can appreciate the direction that roon is taking.
but don’t get me wrong, there are plenty of issues in the release 1.8
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I tried, but given 1.8 can’t even detect the USB class 2 DAC connected to my pc, I would have to agree. 1.7 worked fine. This feels like a mass-participation alpha than a professional release TBH. Which would be fine with me, if it were actually labelled an alpha. Regretting the update thus far, galling I can’t roll back to 1.7. Regression bugs abound.
See my my posts regarding major problems with functionality:
Roon 1.8 Problems Part 1: The Version Problem
Roon 1.8 Problems Part 2: The Boolean Search Problem
There will be a Roon 1.8 Problems Part 3 very soon. To be fair these are probably relatively minor teething bugs to be expected in an upgrade. However, the problems outlined above are major and potential destroy much of the functionality that we had in the (excellent on the whole) Roon 1.7.
Although your wording is perhaps a bit too strong, I must say that I very much agree. Sometimes the best way to judge a company is how it reacts when something goes wrong. We will see how Roon fares. Does it admit its mistakes and try to rectify them or does it simply ignore them and carry on?
Jim
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Well, its DAC is not very good comparing to my iFi micro iDSD BL.
Bordering on insanity would be trying to use Roon to retrieve all my recordings that have been recorded in Kingsway Hall in the 60’s
Or to retrieve all compositions composed between 1850 and 1860.
Of course, you could characterise such searches as OCD-driven 
But anyway.
I am also using different tools to listen to music. I am using Roon in my living room, since I do not want to use a PC there (been there, done that), but my iPad sitting in my listening chair. This is the place where I use Roon 100%.
In my study with the PC I’m using Roon, but in parallel JRiver, to do the tagging and do do searches as described before. The search is lightning fast and complex searches are easily done. Given, they depend on my file tags and they are not complete in terms of recording location nor compositon date. So it’s great that Roon gives me those on top, but for what purpose? I cannot focus or search on them. JRiver is extremely flexible while at the same time extremely ugly. The user experience is not as nice as with Roon. But in the study it gets the job done.
The rest of the family is using spotify family with our Sonos anyway. I also have a spotify account for traveliing and discovery. One payment, three accounts, perfectly independent. Not possible with Roon.
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I’ve been a software designer/engineer for 30+ years. I could make a list of the bad things in 1.8, but frankly I can’t be bothered. My past experiences of getting easily-reproducible bugs in Roon reported and fixed has convinced me that I’d be wasting my breath. I just wish there was a good alternative to Roon, or that they would simply let you use an older version instead of forcing new stuff down our throats. I used to tell people that Roon was great software. No longer…
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