You would pay 650 for an out-of-warranty Nucleus if you can have a new One for 500? Why?
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It’s an off-the-market collectible?
Because, if you cannot afford £650 for the old used Nucleus, the higher power-consumption of it will also be to expensive. Then you must go to the cheaper Nucleus One which consumes less power and also have a full warranty. Isn’t that obvious. 
Kev67, I think we all know, with depressing familiarity, that US dollar conversions for hardware or software work the opposite way to expectation. I don’t expect the Nucleus One to be any less than £600!
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Also remember that in the UK the 20% of VAT is added before showing the cost, whereas in the US State and City taxes are added at checkout.
This has caused me many headaches while traveling over the years.
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21% here in the Netherlands.
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any updates? Still scheduled to ship out by end of the month?
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Does anybody know when these will be available in the UK? I can’t seem to find any info.
Thanks
Someone further up wrote that they got the info that it would be start of Q3. In the US they said end of June, but depending on interpretation this is more or less the same thing, give or take a week. So in reality nobody knows for sure
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Yeah, want to know the same.
While a NUC is a way out, the easiness of this for me is perfect.
I fully expect them to be £500 which is still OK since you’d pay that to import one. I just want it ASAP. Family love using my Tidal account at home, but I don’t want my gaming PC on 24/7!
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100% agree. Just get it to the UK already. £500 or less and I am definitely getting one
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On a related topic, Roon Nucleus One. I currently have a Nucleus with a 1 TB m.2 SSD mounted internally.
I am expecting delivery of the Roon Nucleus One tomorrow. I doing some additional reading I found a couple of potentially disappointing things out I was not expecting since this is their latest hardware offering. I may be missing something but here is what I understand. The Nucleus one does not have tany of the latest chip sets, in fact its chip set is several generation back (Intel Celeron) ???processor.
In addition you can no longer install M.2 SSD like Samsung Evos . Rather it only houses a 2.5 SATA drive . The Samsung 870 QVO I purchased has read/write speeds of 560mb/s??? which is light years slower than the 970 EVO M.@ ssd which is more like 3500mb/s. If I understand this correctly than how could this be improved for the Audiophile community??? Also if that is the case and I am not missing some other architecture improvement than I probably won’t even open the box and just send it back and research Plan B??? Anyone out there have better info?
My Rig is:
Lina DAC
Riveria AIC-10
Roon nucleus ( nucleus One ordered arriving tomorrow)
Susvara HP
In addition to the above comments. In past communications with DCS, I was told Lina DAC was made for streaming over a network and is the best way to get the best sound not (USB) anyone have experience with that? Agree or Disagree?
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@anon71803174 - I’ve moved your post from a 3 year-old thread into a more relevant thread on the Nucleus One.
The Nucleus One may have a recent Celeron CPU, but this is not the Celeron of old, see:
As always, Roon OS and the Roon software is being held on a M.2 SSD, and the optional 2.5"drive is used for local music storage. Speed is not critical for music storage - a 2.5" HDD would serve perfectly well.
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Why did you buy it then?
My initial expectation was “Wow” Roon updated their hardware and I immediately placed a pre-order? Then I began doing my research and began to question if it was in fact an upgrade? Now that I received the shipping notice I looked into more hence my questions ( always knowing I would do this but wanted to get on the pre-order list not to lose out if its a better upgrade, so I’ll see
As the Nucleus One specifications state the same maximum library size as for the Nucleus, I‘d expect it to have roughly the same performance but for a lower price.
As for the hard disks, @Geoff_Coupe already explained it, but maybe it’s worth adding that the speed difference you quoted is because of the different interfaces and has nothing to do with EVO vs QVO, which refer to the cell technologies and are available for either interface. E.g., there is a SATA drive with the 870 model number and it is available as PRO, EVO, or QVO. As the SATA drive is for music storage, the QVO is usually the best choice because it’s cheaper and music storage is not written frequently
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Thank you for your response. I am not into Roon bashing, generally I don’t BASH components unless they are rip off’s. Roon is not now or ever has been a Rip off. But respectfully to all taking issue with QUESTIONING the Roon Nucleus one its not in any way shape or form to question Roon. Any mildly technically informed individual who reads tech has never heard the word “Celeron” processor as cutting edge in years, the same with SATA. In fact I as someone who always upgraded my equipment, I upgraded away from devices with these specs years ago. I have a current Nucleus several years old so I was glad to hear a new product was coming hence pre-ordered.
Now I or we in terms of this discussion are expected to immediately embrace a Celeron processor with internals with less storage options (no M.2 SSD) and feel like we are upgrading our current equipment.
Wow, Roon who just was acquired by a Harmon (who may have had little or now input to this device) Nevertheless people are justifiable concerned as we see what companies like this sometimes do to acquire the mass market vs the AUDIOPHILE! They knew this would be on the minds of many before they did the rollout. They them themselves say the new Nucleus will be comparable to “Current Performance” Who wants to get excited about buying a new product that is basically the status quo in performance, who even releases such a product. AS to the cheaper…they rollout a $500 option the next option is $4000.00 dollars with no middle path?? Yet another example of Roon not having the "Audiophile community in the forefront of their minds.
So with respect the audiophile people like me who spend tens of thousands of dollars are trying to obtain the best possible sound quality have every right to question exactly how this product is a clear helpful upgrade to the Roon audiophile customer base who after all created the BUZZ about Roon. I myself go way back to SooLoss equipment and it promise of audio quality… Calling Nucleus an “Alliance” show to me the lack of understanding of their customer base. That is unless I and other Audiophiles are not in that base any longer. Fine, then market it that way. Don’t tell people who scour the Hobby on forums and go to shows here is the next best thing because we figured out how to make it cheaper for the masses. If they were so focused they would have offered an upgrade option path of a component that clearly was more cutting edge somewhere between $500 dollars and $4000.There are alternatives out there so that’s where many will focus
That’s just plain incorrect, as @Geoff_Coupe already explained
As I have explained in the linked post, Celeron is just a marketing name that Intel used for wildly different CPUs. On its own it means nothing.
You will notice that Roon doesn’t state the specs, and „mildly“ (but not actually) informed people jumping to conclusions based on misunderstandings is probably the reason.
As for „audiophile“, the Nucleus is a computer and has no sound.
There IS an upgrade path with quite generous trade-in offer from Nucleus and Nucleus+ to Titan.
As the Nucleus One replaces the original Nucleus, there’s no „upgrade“ involved and no reason for Nucleus owners to switch to One.
Maybe there will be an option between One and Titan in the future. I think there should be.
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On announcement, it was made clear that the Nucleus One was to be the replacement for the original Nucleus models - not the Nucleus+. So if you already have a Nucleus, then just send the Nucleus One back…
Personally, I think that there will be a tranche of people who will be happy to get the equivalent of the Nucleus performance at a much reduced price…
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Tony, I don’t get your concerns - the Nucleus One is several generations newer than your Nucleus, I’m sure it’ll be more “snappy”, and you’ll be very happy with it. Buyers remorse is something else, if you’re not happy, return it. Simple.
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