Introducing Nucleus One - the most affordable Roon Server ever made!

I am running roon on a machine with similar power CPU/RAM-wise compared to Nucleus One. My experience is it can handle a library of slightly more than 100k tracks well if you accept certain operations to be a bit sluggish, like starting a stream, opening album or artist’s page, composition lists or alike.

It very much depends on the structure of the library. The more references, artists and huge files (particularly DSD), the more likely an annoying slowdown will occur with increasing number of tracks. I notice my machine is getting slower north of 75k (with really complicated library) but still usable. Would say, 150k tracks is doable with a simple structure if you are lucky and your files are small. 300k tracks definitely not. Roon will just stall or collapse if the machine is running out of RAM.

Which i5 are you running roon on currently?

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I agree with you, it’s probably 300k tracks, but it would be worthwhile correcting this error in the OP.

However, it’s useful noting that Jamie (Roon staff) switched from a Nucleus+ to a Nucleus One without an issue and has a library of ~100,000 tracks. Likewise, I think it was Danny who mentioned a Nucleus Plus running a library of over 1M tracks. But for an enormous library, a bespoke server is necessary.

Incidently, voltage isn’t an issue since the power adapters operate in all territories and only need a different AC power cord.

that’s my point, I know it’s above the recommended specs. I was asking how slow would it be. Like my comment about about my 4+ year old HP can run fine (yes, takes ages to load, and on a old sata drive) thinking newer hardware might be an improvement.

Either way I’ll forget about it and just continue my PC build

Cheers

There’s no practical value in getting Roon hardware Vs your own server build, especially with a library of your size.
If you have the skills to build and administer your own build I would do so.

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I think the problem with this is that even if it ran fine now, Roon might make changes in the future and would maybe verify that it still works on the N1 with a 100K library or maybe 150K, but the farther away you are from the recommendation the more likely there will be trouble.

And if so, it’s difficult to complain because they can always say you’re out of spec.

In addition, as @Arindal wrote, it’s very dependent on library structure, so I guess Roon Labs must leave a safety margin. Maybe you happen to have a library structure that works beyond the 100K, but nobody knows and maybe you don’t.

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Given the enormous price difference between the One and Titan, I wouldn’t be surprised if Roon comes up with something in between.

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Currently it’s a Intel(R) Core™ i5-7500T CPU @ 2.70GHz 2.71 GHz

Judging by benchmarks and experience with similar cores, i would expect the N1 to be somewhat slower than your i5 yet not terribly slower.

If RAM is sufficient or lack thereof causing the machine to collapse is a different story though.

This device is exactly what I was thinking of building, and it is prettier than what I would have built anyway. Preordered!

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When will Nucleus One be available in Italy?

Somewhere end of June to Q3, see here and the following discussion:

Thank you!

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How will the Nucleus One compare to a Nucleus Rev B? I might be able to acquire a Rev B second hand from a hifi dealer but they seem a bit vague on the spec - eg memory, cpu, SSD etc. Are all Rev B’s the same spec, if so what is it? What would be a fair price for a second hand Rev B, in “beautiful condition” according to the seller?

Would it be worthwhile getting a Rev B, or wait for the Nucleus One to be released?

Thanks for any info!

The old regular Nucleus (not Plus) was recommended for libraries up to 100,000 tracks:

And the Nucleus One is also recommended up to 100,000 tracks:

Therefore, I’d expect that they have approximately the same performance.

The old Nucleus has no fan, the new one has one but it was said it should normally be silent.

A used Nucleus will have had some wear on its system SSD, so most likely you can expect it to fail faster.

You didn’t say what the used Nucleus would cost you but I think that’s the most important thing for choosing one or the other.

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Hi,

Thanks for reply. My library is only just over 31k tracks so well within the capabilities of the old Nucleus.
As the seller is open to offers I’d be looking to pay £650 tops, but if the Nucleus One will be available for approx £400 in the UK when it goes on sale (soon?) the price of the old Nucleus looks pretty high if the performance will be similar?

I’d agree that the price for a used Nucleus should not be more (and better be significantly below) a new Nucleus One.

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Thanks, I’ll just wait on the Nucleus One.

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Indeed. I wouldn’t pay more for an old and used model if the new one is cheaper. Also warranty comes to mind. Hardware can break or die at any given moment. So I would rather buy a new device covered in warranty compared to an old one with no warranty.

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Actually disagree on this one.