Introducing Nucleus One - the most affordable Roon Server ever made!

[Anthony_Pasquill]

I’ve completely given up on one here in Sydney - dealers know nothing, can’t get a response from the main distributor. Nothing.

[erho (Eric)]

same here in Austria/Europe

[Geoff_Coupe]

It’s a work in progress:

Roon Nucleus One review

When distribution is available outside the US we will announce on all social channels and Community, stay tuned!

[brennan_peyton]

My Mac is running Linux not osx which is rock. No real difference

[Paul_Whittaker]

Why are high street dealers no longer selling Nucleus products? I always thought having a shop presence was good for visibility, especially for the less tech savy. 1 of the demographics
purchasing a pre made server.

[Jut (Jut’s head)]

II’m afraid it would become a €1000,- product (without the software), sitting there next to blinking aluminum cased other hogh-end streamers. Let the stores sell the Roon-ready stuff and let us buy the Nucleus cheap , we already know what it can do so don’t need advice from a salesman.

[Paul_Whittaker]

I didn’t think of the markup, valid point.

[Pogorowitz (Danny B.)]

Is there an advantage to getting a Nucleus One over what I currently have?

My setup:

• Intel NUC 11，Intel Core i7-1165G7 4-Core, 2.8 GHz – 4.7 GHz Turbo，8 Thread, 12MB Cache
• with a 8GB Single DDR4 2400 MT/S
• • SAMSUNG 970 EVO Plus SSD 250GB NVMe M.2 Internal Solid State Drive (just to house the server software)

[Marian (I stand with Ukraine)]

It depends on your workflow - whether you have DSP, the kind of DSP and the number of simultaneous zones with DSP - but since you’re asking this in a very general way, the answer is probably no

One question though: what do you mean by “8GB Single DDR4”? Do you have a single DIMM? You need an even number of DIMMs to take advantage of Dual Data Rate memory, so if you have only one, you should get another identical one and install it in the correct slot. That would increase your RAM to 16GB, increase its speed and potentially speed up metadata searches.

[Wade_Oram]

@Marian

Do you have a single DIMM? You need an even number of DIMMs to take advantage of Dual Data Rate memory, so if you have only one, you should get another identical one and install it in the correct slot.

Correct as far as the effect of the second DIMM is concerned but wrong in detail.

You need two DIMMS to take advantage of Dual Channel memory which the NUC11 supports (as do almost all modern motherboard/processor combinations).

DDR (Dual Data Rate) simply means that data is clocked in/out of the RAM on both edges of the clock signal so you get two transactions per clock.

With a single DIMM, each ‘transaction’ reads or writes 8 bytes (64 bits). With two DIMMs present, each transaction reads or writes 16 bytes (128 bits).

[Suedkiez (Just a fellow user like you)]

@Pogorowitz

Is there an advantage to getting a Nucleus One over what I currently have?

No, it’s a recent and fast CPU and most likely way faster than even the fastest Celerons today (whichever really is in the One)

[Pogorowitz (Danny B.)]

I mostly play music from one of my computers (a desktop, a laptop) and my iPhone via Arc when I’m out and about.

I have one of this specific internal ram parts : https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01BIWKP58/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s01?psc=1

I’m an extreme novice when it comes to DIY tech stuff. I was surprised I was able to even setup one up that has been working for me for a while.

[Pogorowitz (Danny B.)]

Thank you.

If I’m not getting a major improvement in performance, there probably isn’t a need.

I’ve been using my setup for around 2 years without any major issues.

[Marian (I stand with Ukraine)]

@Pogorowitz

I was surprised I was able to even setup one up that has been working for me for a while.

Glad you went this path, I’m sure you saved quite a bit. Now make sure you get a second DIMM and install it. I don’t know how many memory slots are in your NUC; if there are only two, it’s easy; if there are four, you should skip one slot, i.e. they should be either on slots 1 and 3 or 2 and 4. If the slots have different colors, then both should be on the same color.

[Suedkiez (Just a fellow user like you)]

@Pogorowitz

If I’m not getting a major improvement in performance, there probably isn’t a need.

I’m sure the Nucleus One is just fine for its advertised capabilities, but compared with your NUC I would guess that you would get a major decrease in ultimate performance.

[Suedkiez (Just a fellow user like you)]

@Marian

if there are only two, it’s easy;

There are two. @Pogorowitz probably has the NUC11PAHi7, the manual for this (including adding RAM) is here:

https://www.intel.com/content/dam/support/us/en/documents/intel-nuc/NUC11PAH_Kit_UserGuide.pdf

[Pogorowitz (Danny B.)]

That’s exactly the one that I have.

Thank you, both.

[Anthony_Pasquill]

So the new Mac mini was announced today - sorry Roon, your lack of updates regarding the Nucleus One being available here in Sydney has just lost you a sale.

[Lee_A]

I would agree, but the problem with the Mac Mini is a lack of expandable storage after purchase. And adding a bigger SSD means paying Apple’s prices for it.

I also have to restart Roon Core on my current Mac Studio almost daily. I don’t know if that is something unique to my Mac or if it’s a problem on newer Macs (seen mixed comments here about it). Whatever the case, I am not sure I will get a Mini for my core, or a Nucleus One.

[Rugby (aka Daniel or Big Dan)]

@Lee_A

And adding a bigger SSD

An external USB HDD works just fine, as it’s speed is well above what is needed to storage playback.