Is there any sound quality improvement with the new Roon 1.8? What are the improvements, if any?

Maybe the queue needs to have “perfect number” of songs…6, 28, 496, 8128, etc…

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Flat-earthers are A-OK… :smiley:

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Remember the Roon Catalina catastrophe? You would have thought the earth stopped spinning…

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For sound improvement, separate endpoint from the core. The endpoint, if have option to power by linear owner supply, do so. Makes noticeable improvement on Stack Audio Link II. If endpoint has RopieeXL, you can enable Sqeezelite and enable squeezebox in roon and connect to is as a squeezebox endpoint. I hear a difference but I prefer roon endpoint over it. More focused and better sound imaging.

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It’s bit perfect just tested it both come out bit perfect .

Adding to @ipeverywhere I also have a Xeon-based server that also hosts Roon among other things. Recently for convenience I moved Roon to an i3 NUC (ROCK) and guess what? No difference in “sound quality”.

Xeon is not really the optimal processor for Roon … from the horses mouth.

You may have started something:

Thank you Simon!

Now we are as clever as before.

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Hi Andy,

My apologies. I suspect you are the only reply that I will respond to but I’ve crossed paths with you before and you’re always decent. I’m guilty of shooting the messenger here and with hindsight I was too harsh.

My points stand re Roon Labs and the apparent indifference to sound quality. And I’ve discussed it with Danny himself and been fobbed off with “Roon is heavy” as explanation as to why it didn’t match the sound quality of other software…

Roon does many things very well. The UI and User Experience is second to none. But it is well documented that the sound quality falls short of other software such as LMS.

My point was simply that Roon Labs ignores these concerns at it’s peril as some users will defect for better sound quality regardless of the strengths of Valence.

Anyway, my apologies for shooting the messenger.

Regards,
Alan

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I believe all these setups are bit perfect but there must be something else that effects what we end up hearing. Not sure if it’s electrical noise or what. I current have the Focal Arche but used to have Chord Dave/mscaler and heard differences between directly from nuc vs separate endpoint. And now hear improvement switching to linear power supply. I don’t have the knowledge to know why it sounds different, just that it does.

Your swapped the Mscaler and Dave for the Arche?

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It can make a difference … if you want to play more than thousand music files at the same time :sweat_smile:

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Yep, crazy right. And I don’t miss the Dave. I think Arche has better synergy with the Utopia as far as weight and punch . Think if I would have used an external amp with the Dave, might of had different outcome. I was extremely happy with the Dave/mscaler but really was beyond my budget, so got what I could actually afford.

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Where would I find this documentation?

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I have found significant SQ improvement if I use a 2” plank of spalted maple as a shelf/surface for my Rpi to sit on. Not that curly or black maple junk, but solid spalted. Of course, only Norway maple for a turntable surface, maybe you can get away with birdseye but I wouldn’t risk it.

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Hah, I didnt even know they was a darks mode. But I just switched to it. :laughing:

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Thank you David.

Unfortunately, I can relate.

I don’t see any evidence Roon Labs is “indifferent to sound quality” as you say, and honestly all this discussion about perceived sound quality between Roon or other solutions is pointless unless someone can back up their claims with evidence, ie measurements.

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I’m not even convinced different amps really sound any different, let alone software, Yet I’m sensitive to different digital masterings and vinyl pressings :man_shrugging:

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