A fascinating video, I was seriously thinking of buying KEF LS60 , I am now seriously thinking of Hi Fi Man 1000 SE
(Management committee would jib at the Susvara I think !! R 189k (for a pair of headphones) plays 129k for the KEF so maybe not !)
I am waiting of the OPRA Video from NY Can Jam 
Room correction for the Head 
Full disclosure, I did not watch the video. They might. Personally, I just cannot stand the way headphones feel on my head or in my ears. I also like to have the music/sound coming from in front of me and passing through air, not beamed directly at each ear. But thatâs just me, and I can suffer for having a poorer experience overall.
And I realize the irony of my post considering my avatar 
I prefer my speakers in my listening room. However, in other situations, headphones are perfectly fine also.
The title of the video is click bait. He just discusses his room treatment. Maybe it can be implied but stillâŚ
Agree, its a poor video by his standards. He has made the point previously that a really great headphone set up with quality headphones and amp will be better value than a full amp/speaker set up. I think thats a really good point that is worth considering before further purchases.
The Aussie guy on Passion For Sound has just done a great overview of Roon OPRA by the way
A link maybe ?
As always there is no general truth to be found in âshallowâ infomercials.
But still, the takeaway here is that no room is optimal, and youâd better get informed on how your speakers interact with your room, or rather get headphones instead.
Is this a problem for you? It can be, but buildings and construction norms differ greatly, also in Europe.
A similar apartment to Johns Portugese living, will simply NOT be found in Sweden as an example. Here in the north we build to preserve and contain heat mainly, whereas i suppose the guys and gals in Lisbon will build to keep heat out.
One notices on a lot of pictures, that flooring differ a lot through our various listening rooms. You will almost never find a floor with hard/shiny tiling in Norden (Swe/Fin/Nor), but rather variations on wood. And i assure you that this will have a significant impact on the sound, as but one example.
My floor as an example...Here you goâŚ
I was hoping for the seminar at last weeks CanJam NY, itâs an official Roon presentation
The Opra seminar from CanJam NYC, which I attended, was not about to use Opra but rather more about the Opra open source project and how headphones are measured and how headphone EQ are made using those measurements. However it was still a very useful and informative seminar. I still havenât seen any updates as to when and if the video of the seminar will be posted.
Thatâs more what I was hoping for OPRA itself is easy to use , its whatâs behind it that interests me
any thoughts @jamie
Even though the sound might objectively be better with headphones, I much prefer the feeling of sound coming from my speakers (Kef R3), even though Iâm fully aware that the acoustic treatment of my room is far from optimal 
If your headphones sound noticeably better than your loudspeakers, itâs worth taking a closer look at your room acoustics or speaker setup. Speakers interact with the room in complex ways, and issues like reflections, phase cancellations, or poor placement can really affect their performance. For example if you have a âmodernâ interior with the acoustics of a bathroom than there is absolutey no hope to get anything to sound good in there and you might think headphones are better, well in that case they are.
Of course, what sounds âbetterâ is subjective. If you define better as hearing microdetails delivered directly to your ears, then yes, headphones can excel at that. But if youâre looking for a natural, lifelike sound, more like how we hear music in a real space, well-tuned speakers in a good room will always have the edge.
I think that is, indeed, the point behind the Darko video. The video is actually about the cost, effort and visual intrusion that is needed to properly treat a room. If I treated any room in my house the way that Darko has treated his room, Iâd have the additional costs of a divorce lawyer to throw in as well. 
I havenât had speakers for at least 12 yrs , my retirement present was a pair of HD800 as long as I promised not to sing along. Over the years I have been through Wharfdale Lintons, KEF Concertos, Celef PE1 and my pride and joy the ESL 62âs and finally Quad 11/21âs
We have a reasonable hi end soundbar on the TV but its not up to much for music, so other than a couple of BT speakers , we are a quiet(ish) household.
I recently hankered after a pair of KEF LS60 BUT The thought of going through all that adjustment scares me, so Iâll stick with my headphones
I am starting negotiation for a pair of Hi Fi Man HE1000SE , we are a bit limited as to whatâs available here
Absolutely agree, but I have the feeling that not many people are talking about what is actually important for matching room and speakers. Neither reviewers nor room acoustic specialists, maybe very few speaker manufacturers specializing in cardioids or line sources. It is vastly a matter of a speaker´s directivity, the listening distance and the room treatment.
Although this video is focussing on the room treatment itself, there is nevertheless a lot to learn from it. The step in RT60 from the first optimization stage to the final one shocked me, tbh. If you cut the RT60 in half just by treating the connecting staircases and the ceiling, the acoustic result with 0.45s of RT60 two years ago must have been horrible, as such uneven reverberation field is basically consisting of more or less discrete reflections, in case of the staircase even initially delayed ones closer to echoes.
I am not sure a consistent RT60 of 0.25s does hi-fi reviews executed therein really justice. 0.25s is as dry as a dry control room in a studio and is usually favoring low-directivity speakers with a broad radiation pattern particularly in the lower midrange. Exactly what you donât want in a living room environment so I wonder for whom the results of such a review would be valid?
Certainly true but unless the wooden floor is not applied on an additional layer of damping, differences are mostly found in the treble region in which tiles/concrete/marble are very reflective and wood is not.
Not always. There are dedicated speakers like line sources serving such purpose surprisingly well. In some cases, a nearfield setup would help which is just increasing the level of direct sound coming from the speakers compared to the indirect sound from the room. It very much depends on the room.
My guess is many audiophiles would like to have both at the same time and keep passive room treatment at a minimum.
Missed John Darko´s final thoughts and can really underline what he is saying:
The latter is particularly a problem as many people think their rooms gets better with a lot of ´natural absorption´, but the truth is these things mostly reduce RT60 in the treble region making the dominance in midrange indirect sound much more pronounced. Things get worse the moment a speaker with increasing directivity index towards higher frequencies is used. The latter seem to be pretty popular and promoted by many ´reviewers´ these days but the result is very disappointed particularly with the aforementioned combination of underdamped midrange.
Headphones sound awful compared to proper speakers. The sound just isnât natural, its always beamed hard into your ear and you canât feel anything on your body. The imaging is also horrible (Ive owned Hifiman Arya, HD800S etc. and sold them). The imaging of headphones is always super bad because the centre image is never correct. Speakers actually sit out there and sound like watching a show. Headphones beam it in sideways and it makes it sound so wrong. As a drummer I also canât stand the seperation between channels in the mix on headphones, its panned far too hard left or right. Its supposed to be subtle, not hard panned.
TLDR headphones suck, but convienient for mobility, speakers are 100000x better with some simple room treatment.
Itâs a different way of listening
How much music that we listen is natural?, does it really sound like a symphony orchestra in your lounge.
Rock even more so , with multi tracking , mixing etc you get what the mixer gives you, does he monitor on speakers or headphones or a mix
Given the drastic range of recording quality it can never always be natural
Each to his own, alas, I have been 100% headphones for years and donât regret it
I can buy the best of the best for$3000, and swap at will, the same canât be said for speakers
