I use my phone (Android 12) for controlling music through Roon. I do like Roon radio and I do like the option to be able to like or dislike suggested music.
It’s just that, how am I supposed to know if I like or dislike a suggested song if it has not played yet?
On Android, once the song is playing I cannot like or dislike it anymore.
I think I saw it is possible to like or dislike a song once it’s playing in the the Windows PC application. That way I am supposed to get better personalized Roon radio music through time. So why is this feature not available through the smartphone app?
You may already know the suggested track and dislike it.
If you skip a track that’s playing, Roon prompts to ask why.
I believe if you allow the track to play through Roon records it as an “ok” track. That said, Roon is also taking account of input from all users… the affect on future selections I’m told is quite subtle.
does it? not in my case, or is it only in the background?
I also have a question about the functionality of the Radio in general.
I have started a “Boozoo Bajou - Night in Manaus” Roon radio (limited to my library), that’s a trippy Downbeat track with brazilian flavour … Roon Radio suggests then “Massive Attack - Angel” next. That’s a track I absolutely adore, but it doesn’t fit the mood at all, it’s only the same genre “Trip Hop” which is no genre at all (but then, that’s another discussion ;)) . Now, what happens if I dislike the proposition? What does Valence/Roon Radio actually learn?
I have a same or similar problem: When I start a roon radio, I want to be able to like/disklie the song currently playing. However I cant, instead I can like/dislike the next one.
I dont understand the logic, I would like to like/dislike the current song I am playing, and roon learns about the preferences and if I click disklike the next song is played.
Or do I miss something?
thanks Martin for the fast reply. When I start a radio and go to the waiting queue, then i see the song playing and the bottom of the screen another song with like/disklies symbol. Probably the next song showing up?
So I click “Remove from Queue”, it is removed but I am asked nothing and nothing more happens…
So I just tested this again on a tablet running Android. During Roon radio, on the bottom of the screen there’s a box showing what track is coming up. There I can like or dislike it. But that’s mostly not useful because for me Roon Radio is for discovery of new music that I haven’t heard before.
So it would only be logical if I could like or dislike a song currently playing.
De dialog box that prompts for reasons for skipping is not sufficient for this.
The thumbs up/down is simply a bad metaphor because it’s commonly associated with like/dislike.
What it really does is giving you an option to add the next track to the queue or not. Think of it this way and most of the confusion will go away.
Of course, you may still not know the next track, but that can’t be helped in radio. If you do know it, you can decide to not put it on the queue if you don’t like it. If you don’t know the song, let it play and then skip it if it turns out you don’t like it. Then Roon will ask why you skipped it. (Apparently with the limitation as described by Geoff in the previous post)
Yeah, and it should be changed to avoid the confusion. Just saying that it’s known and if they don’t fix it, a person can still decide to reinterpret it in the correct way - once one is aware - and it helps
Definitely better and appropriate. Though I don’t even know why there are two options to begin with. Seems to me that the default is to play the upcoming track, so maybe there’s only a need for one button - “no, don’t add that one”