And you haven’t tried DAC correction? Or you have, and it’s stuttered?
Oh, didn’t know about High Power mode - Thats cool! Will try that this afternoon and report back…
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As far as I can tell “High Power Mode” must be exclusive to the M4 Pro Mac Minis?
Under the Energy menu of the base model there is only an option for “Low Power Mode” or standard
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its only for the pro chips.
but If “256x48 ASDM7EC-Super” works with the base M4 Mini + Roon and it still stays silent I consider that already pretty good for this machine and plenty enough for me.
Considering power consumption, Formfactor and how fast it breezes through other applications that take advange of the M4 Chip for this price.
I have my M4 Mini up and running as well. just need to finally purchase the HQPlayer 5 Licenese… well maybe next month. 
hoping for a Christmas discount
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DSD256x48 isn’t impressive at all for M4. This works with M1 also.
Remember to try different HQP settings when benchmarking the new M4. Try with multicore optimization checked and greyed. Also try different blocks per cycle settings.
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could someone here export settings for me (DSD256) for the normal M4 or screenshots how to do all the settings? I seem to be to stupid. and I’m only getting pcm to work with my SMSL D300 DAC that supports DSD512… directly connected to the Mac with USB.
I want to play files through Roon… and the DAC is disabled inside Roon.
I managed to get HQPlayer running before on a m1 MacBook but I have no idea anymore how I managed that.
With D300, you should get up to DSD256 if you set “SDM Pack” to “DoP”.
all I get is either PCM that sounds fine, PCM with very faint music and hissing. I even tried the HQplayer software without Roon. Does this even work with MacOS or do I still need a NAA endpoint like a raspberry pi ?
Sounds like you are not getting bit-perfect through CoreAudio on macOS. Please make sure the DAC is not the default output device on macOS. And that it is disabled in Roon Settings / Audio. And that you have macOS volume set to 0 dB (max) for the device. If you have any DSP being applied to DoP encoded DSD audio, result is just faint hiss.
Yes it does work with macOS just fine. But using a NAA helps getting around limitations often (but not always) imposed by DoP.
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Any new M4 Mini users have further reports on how it’s running with HQP? And which filters and rates are within range? And if DAC correction is or isn’t possible at 256 or 512? Thanks!
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A little bit off-topic, but…
MacBook Pro M4 Max 16 Core (12 P-Cores)
On the Mac I switched off a lot, like Siri, notifications, Bluetooth, Wifi,…
This is working:
512: poly-sinc-gauss-long ASDM7EC-super 512+fs no Correction
512x48: poly-sinc-gauss-hires-lp ASDM7EC-light 512+fs no Correction
1024 is NOT working with poly-sinc-gauss-long and any ASDM* on my M4 Max.
512x48 with ASDM7EC-light 512+fs sounds very nice, but I thought 1024 with ASDM*… would work.
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Does 512 work with correction on that one?
512 poly-sinc-gauss-long ASDM7 with correction is working
512 poly-sinc-gauss-long ASDM7EC with correction does NOT work
512 poly-sinc-gauss-long ASDM5EC-light 512+fs is working
512 poly-sinc-gauss-long ASDM5EC-super 512+fs does NOT work
512x48 poly-sinc-gauss-hires-Ip ASDM7 with correction is working
512x48 poly-sinc-gauss-hires-Ip ASDM7EC with correction does NOT work
512x48 poly-sinc-gauss-hires-Ip ASDM5EC-light 512+fs is working
512x48 poly-sinc-gauss-hires-Ip ASDM5EC-super 512+fs does NOT work
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OK, so it is very similar to what my 14" MacBook Pro M1Max 32GB can do.
Is your’s one where it is possible to enable High Power Mode? Is this with high power mode, or normal mode? On mine, it is not possible, it would be possible only on 16" model for this generation.
Hi Jussi,
yes it is running in High Power Mode.
Sorry, I made a mistake in my previous post.
16’’ M4 Max (12 Performance-Cores), 64 GB:
512 poly-sinc-gauss-long ASDM7EC-super 512+fs is working (no correction)
512x48 poly-sinc-gauss-hires-Ip ASDM7EC-light 512+fs is working (no correction)
1024x48 poly-sinc-gauss-hires-Ip AHM7EC5L is working with correction
This is one small step up from my previous 16’’ MBP M1 Max, 32 GB
The M4 Max performance should be about twice as fast as the M1 Max.
(measured Geekbench Multi-Core Score M4 Max 26’333, M1 Max 13’062).
Maybe for this application it just takes advantage of the higher clock frequency but cannot take advantage of the 4 additional P-cores ?
Maybe I have to change something in the settings ?
Current settings:
Multicore-DSP: checked
DSP-Pipelines: 16
Blocks per cycle: Default
Idle Time: disabled
FFT filter length: 512
pre-pro before meter: unchecked
I would like to be able to use 512x48 (or even 1024x48) poly-sinc-gauss-hires-Ip ASDM7EC-super 512+fs, but with M4 Max there are dropouts.
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With experimental modulators dac correction is anyway disabled by default
I think these are not relevant for any real world use case. It totally depends on the type of workload. Integer math? Floating point math? How RAM heavy it is? I/O heavy SQL database? Network heavy web server?
It is always best to level expectations based on benchmark figures. Benchmarks are mostly marketing vehicle. It is known that hardware manufacturers tailor drivers and hardware features for benchmark software. Like Nvidia and AMD drivers detect benchmark software and engage special handling to pump up the scores on those. Probably macOS detects GeekBench.
It depends on the type of load you have. But much simplified, modulators require high clock speeds, while filters require many CPU cores. So what is best fit depends on the particular settings mixture.
But generally for modulators, every doubling of output sampling rate requires twice higher CPU clock speed.
I would try also with auto (grayed).
Doesn’t affect ongoing processing, but when using Roon as a front-end, I highly recommend setting this to something like 30 seconds. Makes interactivity with Roon much snappier.
Any updates for Filters/Modulators/Bit Rate for DSD attainable with either the base Mac Mini M4 or the M4 Pro?
Have you tried 512? May need the M4 Pro for that.