The Mytek. The sMS-200 is already.
Agreed, this happens to me a bit as well, no matter the end point. USBridge into the Liberty. RPI into Arcam irDACII and I have had it happen on the chromecast when testing. The Liberty has been pretty good lately to be honest. I generally reboot the core and its then fine.
Itās amazing how the Roon team hasnāt implemented a 1/10 of a second delay. Expecting all of us to know what DACās are compatible is a bit absurd. In a busy complicated household, it shouldnāt be so hard to play music.
I dunno. Hereās my model (not claiming itās realistic, just the way Iāve come to think about it): The Roon Labs guys are a team of adventurers, and they are building this thrill ride called Roon. Theyāre building it for themselves ā we can buy tickets, which help defray the development and operating costs, but weāre just passengers. If we enjoy the ride, fine, but if not, tough luck. They donāt really care what we donāt like about it, because they know what they want, but they do want feedback, because theyāre smart enough to know that others may have good ideas that theyād like, too.
On the realistic side, Iām actually very impressed with the techno parts of the system. RAAT seems like a fine āmoatā (in the Warren Buffett sense) that it would take other companies much time and effort to cross. The DSP and sound manipulation features in the Core seem very well done. The decision to stick with .NET and Mono interfaces is bold and risky and seems to work pretty well.
Really the disappointing part is the whole metadata handling ā here it seems Roon promises much and delivers little. I still canāt believe the LYRICS tag is ignored. Classical is all screwed up, but mainly because no one has good metadata for these box sets. And the whole ātake us back to liner notesā thingā¦ Well, I bought some new jazz albums at Christmas, which come with copious notes and essays. None of which are available in Roon. Instead they have either nothing, or some insipid essay written by some staff writer at AllMusic which may or may not make sense.
Butā¦ I have to keep reminding myself Iām just along for the ride! Tied to the saddlebags while the Roon guys flog the horse to a wild gallop!
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@Bill_J. How about telling us how you really feel 
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Greetings,
@support I am feeding my Liberty via a Sonore Microrendu 1.4 and am only seeing DSD128 in the settings for the Liberty. Any ideas?
Thanks,
Vince
@support - my bad, I had the Microrendu misconfigured. Setting DSD Support to Native did the trick.
BTW - I moved my i7 ROCK to strictly networking vs attached to any audio sources. Putting the Microrendu as the input to the Liberty had a very positive impact on sound qualityā¦ at least to these abused ears.
Hi
So the sweetspot combo would be Liberty+Sbooster+Usbridge!!! Total price 1450.
Are there no Good Dacs around Us$1000 with roon endpoint built-in???
Thanks
Antonio
Iām using Liberty + Pi/Ropieee/WiFi, for about $1050, and itās fine. I suppose it depends on what you think you need to deal with your environment.
I have heard that Pi USB out to Dac is noise, so IMHO Usbridge would be better.
Also I donāt know the wifi quality of Pi. I would prefer to use wired network!!!
This is exactly what I have and it sounds great. I am just trialling HQ Player and that seems to add another level too.
Hi Ross
Are you using Liberty, Usbridge and Sbooster??
How will you implement the Hq player?
Are you going to install it in the Roon Core Pc??
How about the PSU you are using with Usbridge??
Hi @Antonio_Souza,
I will try and answer for you.
Are you using Liberty, Usbridge and Sbooster?? - Yes!
How will you implement the Hq player? - Just rebuilt server going from ROCK to windows 10, with the idea that the windows 10 NUC will run Roon and HQ Player
Are you going to install it in the Roon Core Pc?? - see above.
How about the PSU you are using with Usbridge?? I have removed the jumper and I am using two PSUs, a cheap power brick for the sparky and an IFI for the USBridge.
Hi Ross,
This is exactly what I am planning to do.
I will buy Liberty, Sbooster and Usbridge.
I use Allo Katana/roopiee/audiophonics PSU, but I am not fully satisfied!!
I have a i3 8gen win miniitxPc, I donāt know if it is powerful enough to run roon and hqplayer together!!
Let me know when you do it.
Thanks
The major problem with the Pi architecture is that the Ethernet port and the USB ports share the same controller chip, which if youāre using them both does seem to introduce noise (and other problems apparently due to the firmware used in the Liberty DAC). However, if you have a good WiFi signal, and use the WiFi on the Pi instead of the Ethernet, you donāt have that problem with the USB connection, and the sound is perfectly OK. The Mytek gear in general has good input conditioning, as well.
Hi Bill,
Usbridge uses Sparky instead, and the combo is much less noisier the rpi !!
Itās a us130 investment thatās worth IMHO.
Also playing material over WiFi are tricky.
The Allo USBridge is excellent and the whole point of the product is to reduce noise transmitted to the DAC. I am hoping they might release a signature version of the USBridge much like Allo did with the Digione. I also have a Digione from the company which does utilise a Rpi but has a separate board on top, this is also a good product and it utilises coaxial/spdiff.
I am not sure on this, from what I have read HQ Player is pretty intensive, I think you might want to check a bit further. Obviously you could just download the trial of HQ Player and have a go before buying. You could ask @jussi_laako who wrote HQ Player for his opinion.
Thank you Ross
It so much depends on what you want to do. But Iād say all recent Core CPUs can be considered OK for the combination, assuming paying some attention to settings.
My 2011 dual-core i5 Mac Mini can run Roon + HQPlayer just fine up to DSD128 upsampling. Quad core models can likely upsample to DSD256.
And always use the free trial before purchase to make sure things work as expected! I would say this applies to any piece of software that has trial available.
Thank you!!!