NUC 8th Gen still the best option? and best retailers?

Can you provide the exact model of your NUC11?

Do you see HDMI audio devices in Roon settings → audio?

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Now also my cirrus7 nimbus ( should work with Rock and HDMI Out:

And in Roon:

By the way: I’ll not change to Rock with this device.

Other device (only used as endpoint, but with Rock on it) is a Zotac ZBox CI331 Nano offers also HDMI:

Yes and no :slight_smile: Not all models have “HDMI Out”. I one that I have - cirrus7 nimbini v3 - don’t have “Intel HD Audio Technology”:


Sure, I’ve not written, that all cirrus7 devices are able to use HDMI audio out…

@wklie - This is strange. My NUC has NO Intel HD Audio Technology. But after the ROCK update yesterday I do get this now:

That would likely mean that the unneeded dependency on HD Audio is fixed. Let’s see if more users with NUC10 without HD Audio / 3.5mm headphone jack confirm seeing it, or better yet, test the ROCK HDMI Audio output.

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I just did a test:

In 5.1 :slight_smile: Just great :slight_smile:


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Any idea how to disable the ALSA devices/drivers?

I now have these listed ‘as connected to my Core’

And don’t want them, as will never use them. My Core is run on the same switch as the NAS units that hold the Music Library etc. and are not anywhere close for physical connection to the Endpoints.

This is what I see…(I dont use the core as an endpoint fyi)

@Ian_Hudson - What model of NUC11 are you using?



I can’t speak for @Ian_Hudson, but I thought I’d mention that we’ve only tested the NUC11TNHi/3/5/7. Here’s the i3 & i7 on Amazon DE:

We’re also hoping to test the NUC11PAHix soon, which seems to be more widely available.

(P.S to anyone else reading this, you can find Amazon US & UK links for the NUC11 in this article.)


I just heard from my Intel contact, who is sending me the NUC11PA series and the NUC12WS to test.

He said this about the non-TN lines I inquired about:

NUC11PA (an 11th gen Consumer NUC) is over a year old and was severely supply constrained back in the day due to the component shortage. We prioritized its contemporary NUC11TN (11th gen Commercial NUC) for production and thus is far more widely available.

NUC12WS (12th gen NUC) is the latest version of this NUC form-factor, successor to both NUC11PA and NUC11TN.

When I brought up Amazon availability, he laughed and said “its crazy how the global supply chain works”

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From Passmark Benchmarks

Lowest Nucleus Rev B Nucleus+ Rev B
Cores 2 2 2 4 4 2 4 6 2 4 4
Threads 4 4 4 8 8 4 8 12 4 8 8
TDP 15W 15W 28W 15W 28W 15W 15W 15W 15W 28W 28W
Single Thread 1,241 1,391 2,261 2,156 2,575 2,265 2,231 2,457 2,688 2,721 2,800
CPU 2,166 2,722 4,256 6,359 8,743 4,004 6,400 10,086 6,232 10,039 10,141

Puts the NUC11TNHi3 as the modern equivalent to the NUC7i7DN used in the Nucleus+, unless you need more than 4 threads.
Then the NUC11TNHi5 seems to be the modern sweet spot, similar single thread as the NUC11i3, NUC8i7 but with the 8 threads.
The NUC11TNHi7 doesn’t seem to bring much more to the party.


The NUC12WS range and the Intel 7 CPU architecture, are now running Performance Cores alongside Efficient cores.
So will be interesting to see how RoonOS within ROCK works with these.
Can a Endpoint with heavy load DSP be pinned or move from an Efficient core to a Performance Core on-demand?

Performance Cores 2 4 4
Efficient Cores 8 8 8
Threads 12 16 16
TDP 28W 28W 28W
Single Thread 3,502 3,285 3,295
CPU 15,310 17,626 17,059

Again not sure what the i7 is bring extra to the party.



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FYI, I installed ROCK on a NUC11PAHi3 last night - seems to be working…


Thanks for your table, very, very useful! I am right now in the process in deciding with NUC to get.

Have you found out something about the new core architecture since 12th Gen and Roon already?

I also think there are some mistakes in the table or rather Passmark updated their data:

Single thread performance of the NUC12WSHi3/ Core i3-1220P is 3388.

NUC12WSHi5/ Core i5-1240P is 3303.

NUC12WSHi7 / Core i7-1260P is 3353.

I haven’t seen anyone describing their use of a NUC12 or any further reports about how the Kernel manages the workload across the different Core types.

Passmark may have updated, based on further input - the numbers I took were fairly early.

In terms of a NUC to run ROCK, if I was buying today, I would probably go for a NUC 10.
Either as an i3, as I only use one zone for playback at time so the single thread performance is fine, or as an i5 as this provides the same performance as the NUC7i7DN board used in a Nucleus+, which does everything I need and probably sat idling for 99% of the time, only seeing workload when I upload new tracks to my Music Library, which it has to scan using all 8 cores.
I won’t be going for, presumably, the more expensive NUC 11 or NUC 12 models.

Remember NUC 12 is not yet an approved platform for ROCK.

These are on the supported list, albeit without HDMI output:

  • NUC12WSHi3*

  • NUC12WSHi5*

  • NUC12WSHi7*

As far as I understand the NUC 12 is supported, but Gen 13 isn’t yet.

I will probably get an i3 Gen 13 NUC since the single core performance went up and the power consumption went down in comparison to i3 Gen 12 NUC.

I don’t see any use case for an i7, one should consider i3 or i5.

I just can’t manage to find out how to connect a SATA SSD for storage to the Gen 12 or Gen 13 NUCs since the high version state 2.5" drive, but there’s no SATA connector on the mainboards anymore :face_with_monocle: