Nucleus Titan or Nucleus One? what's the difference?

wow, really?
if so I will stay on that as long as its running.
mine has 32GB RAM
I think i5
8TB storage
so storage wise Im OK, Ram wise too… i5 I dont know, but so far no drops or such

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It doesn’t work that way.

Not generally a problem.

If it works, stick with it until it doesn’t.

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“Most dsp funktions available” on Nucleus One.
But which dsp funktions are not available on the One, compared to Titan?

Hi Wade,

So if I were to use a basic Mac Mini and install Rock, I wouldn’t have to deal with MacOS and updates, backups, etc… anymore?
It would be as simple to maintain as a Nucleus? That is it’s main selling point for me, I have a first gen Nucleus since 2018 and it works flawlessly.

Only thing I have to do is push the update button when Roon asks me to.
I let Roon automatically run library backups to a few different locations and let my Synology NAS do a few different backups of my whole Nucleus including the internal storage which holds my music.

No you can’t use a Mac Mini, that is not a NUC. NUC is specific Intel Hardware using an Intel Motherboard. If you used one of the specifically supported NUC models and installed ROCK, then yes, it will function the same as your Nucleus.

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You are more likely to run into performance issues due to so many bootlegs as almost certainly Roon will be unable to ID them , there a lots of threads about non ID’ed libraries causing slow performance,

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Ok, thanks for the info. To me it doesn’t matter if it’s a Mac Mini or Intel Nuc, so a NUC might be worth checking out.
I had always been under the impression that I’d have to deal with Windows underneath.

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“Some DSD + DSP combinations may not be possible”. It’s a performance limit. The functions are all listed and available but you won’t be able to convert to DSD512 and run a convolution filter at the same time.

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In my opinion both are overpriced for what they offer and the Titan is way over given its relative mediocre performance shown in one thread beaten by a humble n95 mini pc. Stick with what you have if it ain’t broken.

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Something they need to sort out this is a very poor design choice on their behalf. The fact it keeps doing recursive attempts to identify them when any edits re made and consume so much resources is really unacceptable. Users should be able to ignore this stuff. Not everything is in their two databases of choice users should not be punished for it.

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Don’t disagree , my library is fairly mainstream I have 60 or so albums not ID’ed

Definitely stick with what you’ve got until it slows down/runs into problems. If you want something with real power then you’re going to need to go for a powerful desktop solution. A Titan is just another small form computer. Like others, I do think it’s overpriced. Out of interest, is your core machine in a listening area? I’m just thinking of fan noise.

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Sure one does. It’s known as diminishing returns. The last few % (improvement, capacity, speed) costs exponentially more.

There are too many variables to give precise figures. It depends is the best anyone can state. Don’t overestimate the value some place on appearance as well.

Obviously, The Roon Nucleus One is not what you need. You should purchase a Roon Nucleus Titan or some other device that will handle your situation. It’s your decision.

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Nothing wrong with using Windows. I’ve run Roonserver on windows for nearly 10 years. No issues ever. I also run a Rock Nuc, 7 years, and a rev B Nucleus, 2 years. So I have had multi-years of day-to-day direct comparison.

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There is nothing wrong with Windows, I have both a Mac Mini and a nice Windows desktop PC and enjoy using both. Both act as a Roon remote for me.

But I wouldn’t dream of running a Roon server on a Windows (or Mac) system, as I want zero maintenance a Nucleus or NUC with Rock is what I need.

I did the reverse 5 yrs Windows 10 Desktop then moved to NUC broad as it’ long both do the job.

I had the same question. I have been enjoying a Nucleus Plus now for several years, USB to the DAC, and MUCH better sounding than running Roon on a high-end laptop, but I was concerned that my Nucleus Plus server was getting “long in the tooth” and considered replacing it with something at the “beginning of life”. To me the Titan seems to have been designed with a lot of the cost devoted to its appearance. From what I could find on the Roon website, it seemed to have a faster processor and memory, compared to the Nucleus One; in my case, just listening to one source, one output, mostly streaming Qobuz, the extra performance didn’t seem to be worth the cost difference.

In the end, I’ll keep my Nucleus Plus for now, it sounds awesome and just hums along with database backups and is easy to apply updates.

It would be great if Roon would offer a one year upgrade program from the Roon Nucleus One to the Roon Nucleus Titan. Give customers a 100 percent trade-in allowance for the Nucleus One.

I can see some/many customers are torn and confused about which one they need and maybe reluctant to risk buying a Nucleus One for fear it will be underpowered. It’s a huge leap from the One to the Titan for most people.

@danny

I can see a trade in program potentially working, but here is the question. How much would you be prepared to pay for a used Nucleus One? In my job we deal with this sort of issue and for a company to even consider offering this, you are looking at best, a 50% restocking fee. To make even that work, to cover the costs of processing it, they would need to be able to sell these at 20% off list. Then factor in the labor to wipe and reinstall Rock, check the boards for errors and repackage.

At that point, just sell it on ebay or the for sale forum here and buy it new.