Nucleus Titan or Nucleus One? what's the difference?

apart from the price that is quite substantial and the outer box (look of the Nucleus) I do not really understand what the differences are between Nucleus Titan and Nucleus One.

I would love to use 4TB or even better 8TB SSD drives on either one but do not understand which of the two is right for me.

Can anyone point me to the right place to find out or explain in simple terms why I would want to pay substantially more for the Titan?

thanks for any enlightened answers.

Just look on Roons website.

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From the respective online specs, first the Titan:

and the Nucleus One:

The Titan is fanless, the One has a fan (more or less inaudible by all accounts). Both can accept the same storage size.

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so if I understand correctly
both 100’000 songs
both 6 zones
both same size HDD

means difference is:
Price 500$ vs 4’000$ :thinking:
fan-no fan
some DSP functions
fancy covers…

…thats all? really? Am I missing anything?

I guess I can stay with my NUC for now, why on earthy would I change?

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Um, no. It says “over” 100,00 tracks and “over” 6 zones for the Titan and “up to” 100,000 tracks and “up to” 6 zones for the One.

If it does what you need, there is no reason to change at all. You hadn’t asked about that in the initial post.

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Not quite. The One is only recommended up to 100,000 songs. By contrast, the Titan is recommended for 100,000 or more songs.

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I think you’ve missed “up to” and “over” in the two specs…

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OK, but unlimited? or 200’000 or how much. If I pay 4’000$ I would very much like to know hen I run out of space. You dont buy a car with 200hp and another one at 8x the price that has >200hp…

so yes I might not have seen this, but I still dont know that the real differences are

Really? Nothing is “unlimited”.

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…yep, thats what I think. But it would be nice to know

The Titan’s limit won’t be 100,001 tracks or 200,000. But there is no fixed upper limit because it depends on the composition of a person’s library. Someone may have 700k tracks exclusively from identified albums and be happy, another one may have 600k tracks of which 200k are unidentified live bootlegs from one artist in a single folder and they may experience slowdown.

Edit: Take Roon’s guidance for what it is: If you know that you will have more than 100k tracks, you are on the safer side with something faster than a One. (Which can be a Titan but there are cheaper ways to get the same performance; maybe not casing)

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The guidlines on maximum number of songs are just that. Guidelines. There are people using a Nucleus One with many more than 100,000 songs without issue. But, you might not have the same experience. There are too many variables to be sure.

As far as upper limits are concerned, it is probably impossible to tell with any certainty for either device.

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What exactly would you like to know? One has a faster CPU and larger storage space than the other and the differences in these parameters were described.

Also, since neither (nor any alternative) is unlimited, you should consider employing a separate PC (with a cutting-edge processor) with a NAS (offering expandable storage). Then, if either is ever pushed to its limits it can be replaced (the PC) or expanded (the NAS) without touching the other.

BTW, how big is your library, how big do you expect it to grow and do you play just CD-level files or do you play hi-rez and/or multichannel files? All critical factors.

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OK, sounds like a valid answer, except I would expect Roon to be clearer for such a difference in price. One could simply buy 2 or 3 nucleus one’s. I just thought there must be more to it.

close to 200’000 and growing since I am only half way through with all my bootlegs. And today half of the 200’000 are already bootlegs. This is why I looked at ONE or TITAN.

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actually close to 200’000 songs
estimation is to grow to 400-500’000 songs
lots in High Res
half are bootlegs (these are for obvious reasons not high res really)

computer might also be a solution. Today I use a NUC. works fine so far. Bu I really want to be sure it stays that way.

Im no computer wiz, can I use a Mac min f.ex? I like simple solutions. Building and setting up my NUC was OK, but its like putting something together were you dont really know what you do. If it works fine, if it doesn’t… hmm no clue were the issue is.

A Nucleus is, from a system maintainance point of view, identical to a NUC running ROCK. Both install Roon Server on top of RoonOS.

If your NUC is a modern (12th or 13th generation) i5 or i7 and has 16GByte or more of memory, it is probably a match for a Titan and may well exceed the capbilities of the Titan.

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wow, really?
if so I will stay on that as long as its running.
mine has 32GB RAM
I think i5
8TB storage
so storage wise Im OK, Ram wise too… i5 I dont know, but so far no drops or such

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It doesn’t work that way.

Not generally a problem.

If it works, stick with it until it doesn’t.

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“Most dsp funktions available” on Nucleus One.
But which dsp funktions are not available on the One, compared to Titan?