It’s a request, nothing more, and one source used to guage interest in a potential future feature. I think the issue is expectation.
It’s interesting you mention the expectation of Feedback > Feature Suggestions
I guess it goes hand in hand with that Roon do what they want. Their metrics are in a different realm to the users for sure.
Other companies/developers who value their customers suggestions do implement more to favour the customer. Maybe that’s the wrong approach as expectations could be higher.
Yes, agree with this. A stronger Roon benefits all.
Let’s face it, nugs isn’t a new feature. It’s just a new service. Choice to use/subscribe is down to each of us.
I think it’s fairly clear there is still some work to do with the nugs service integration. Which makes @SukieInTheGraveyard comment about dev time being diverted and known issues going on the back burner or fully taken off the heat a valid point.
Which in turn could introduce more bugs from nugs and annoy the current user base.
I believe Roon best way forward to add things as plugins rather than deep routed integrations.
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I know how you feel.
I mute a fair number of threads on here.
Putting the kettle on and having a nice coffee and taking timeout helps to.
Not sure so many companies do. Certainly, some developers do engage, but I don’t think there is no precedence either way.
I know what I prefer.
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hi @Mike_O_Neill - we all have our prefs so understand your perspective. i think it’s fair to say that the delay of bringing some things to market is often a tenuous balance of effort vs. impact vs. the unexpected - as a dev, you’ll of course know this well. for the record, interest is never fleeting; just a function of the reality that some opportunities (and challenges) go deeper than others.
I agree there is little value TO ME. Of the artists I’m actually interested in, MOST of the content available is actually commercial releases I already own 
So, yeah, a bit disappointed they spent time on this, but glad it’s of value to others.
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Clean up in aisle 4 completed.
It’s fine to disagree, but please stay on topic, discuss the topic not the authors, try to look beyond the apparent tone of a post. Keep it civil.
If you feel something is out of order, don’t engage (as that just derails the topic) please flag it and let the forum moderators manage it.
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At regular prices - it’s pretty daunting. They have 50% off every now and then (particularly Christmas) when it is more reasonable. (But still …))
Reading the recent nugs discussion really made me think about a double standard in how “niche” is used as an argument by Roon historically.
Sure not every feature/service is for everyone. That’s fine.
But that’s also why I think Roon should revisit some older feature requests. Take DSD ISO: the answer has always been “niche + complicated + breaks assumptions” (export/delete/move a single track, etc.). Yet Roon clearly does ship niche things when it decides they’re worth it, even if they don’t fit perfectly into the ideal Roon model.
nugs feels like proof of that. A lot of it is basically passed through as-is (show metadata, show vs album classification, etc.). It’s not the same kind of fully unified integration as TIDAL/Qobuz — and Roon shipped it anyway, because it’s valuable to the people who want it.
I’m not against nugs at all. Happy for the users who wanted it. I’m just saying: if Roon is willing to ship niche value there, with real-world limitations, it’s fair to ask why long-waiting enthusiast features keep getting stuck in the “too niche” bucket.
If Roon’s identity is still “a haven for enthusiasts,” then I think it’s time some of the long-standing enthusiast gaps such as box-set handling, dsd iso etc.. get revisited with the same pragmatic mindset Roon applies elsewhere: ship something useful, accept that not every action can be unified and handle the edge cases gracefully instead of treating them as excuses.
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I tend to agree with you. Setting geography aside, the USP of nugs in the Roon integration feels quite niche.
To me it looks less like a transformative user feature and more like an ecosystem play.
It does (or will) add new capabilities to Roon, though the lack of video streaming, which I originally hoped for, makes the value proposition feel somewhat limited. They say it’s on the roadmap, so let’s see.
Video on-demand and even live video streaming could be a huge addition to the feature set of Roon - just think about the possibilities! 
And of course, partnerships are also about revenue.
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Surprised that this many music fans apparently aren’t into live music. A service that integrates a Live Shows section into the artist page makes a lot of sense to me. Sure, Nugs is limited to the type of artists willing to make their shows available, but they remain the biggest service I’m aware of with high quality live show audio.
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But not for $25/mo, which is far more than entire streaming services.
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This is obviously just my perspective, but I love live music and yet will never buy a “live album". You go to live music for the in-person experience (which you don’t get on a live album anyway) and the music itself never sounds as good as a studio album.
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WOW! What a thread. I always thought Roon itself was a niche product. But I love it. Adding Nugs was quite interesting to me having never heard of it. If I wanted to listen to or watch concerts I’d use my Kaleidescape. Another niche product. Personally I find Nugs interesting. I haven’t been to a live show (Jazz not included) in 40 years so the idea of reengaging from my couch is nice. Value is a different proposition. We’ll see in 60 days.
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The question I have to ask is, how much does Roon’s owner receive per subscription?
I appreciate the other services have a subs fees but it would seem not many who have posted needed this and I have to admit, after Roon preview “big things coming” I expected something we would all appreciate, not a huge minority. Value for money not.
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I’m into live [American rock] music but
a) $25 is too much
b) there would need to be a lot more artists on there than Bruce and a few niche ones
c) cleaned-up/curated live albums are plentiful and I prefer those to raw soundboards
Mainly b) tbh.
It doesn’t mean I’m not into live music!
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I think it’s a bit of a leap to assume people “aren’t into live music” just because they’re not excited about Nugs.net being integrated into Roon. That comes across as a little narrow‑minded. Nugs.net caters to a very specific slice of the music world, and that’s great for those who are into it, but it’s hardly representative of the broader live‑music landscape.
I go to plenty of concerts and small gigs myself, and almost none of the artists I see have anything available on Nugs.net. So for many of us, the integration simply doesn’t add much value, not because we don’t love live music, but because the catalog doesn’t match the music we actually listen to.
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As someone who almost entirely listen to Classical music, I am glad to see Roon expanding its offerings such as for Nugs. This means that all those non-Classical music lovers will continue to support Roon and thus support Classical music listeners.
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The service is negotiated with the artist, so they probably get a far more reasonable share. This is likely closer to what streaming should cost.
I was at a live performance last night, and speaking with the artist, they confirmed that streaming has practically killed their music sales income.
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Maybe the partnership with nugs.net and Roon will grow both platforms and lead to more artists.