So I signed up for the trial of Nugs. My first impression is that there aren’t many artist on Nugs. Where’s Radiohead? I also checked for the Smashing Pumpkins and they are not listed in Roon Remote; however, if I search the website of Nugs, I find 24 shows from the Pumpkins.
Something is not syncing correctly…
BTW, I also searched the Nugs website for Radiohead, but nada… so there’s that…
There are hundreds of artists on nugs. It was traditionally focused on jambands like Disco Biscuits, Phish, Dead & Company, Widespread Panic, etc., but not exclusively. There are 349 Bruce Springsteen shows, 10 Rainbow Kitten Surprise, 12 Sonic Youth and many other non-jambands. I don’t see any Smashing Pumpkins or Radiohead shows on nugs.
Those Smashing Pumpkins show are only available for purchase and are not available for streaming. Which is why they do not show up in Roon. Nor do they show up in the Nugs streaming app. Only on nuts.net for purchase.
Like Qobuz, Nugs offers both streaming as well as downloads. Much of what is available for streaming is also available to purchase, but not everything. Likewise, there are many items available for purchase but not for streaming. Same as with Qobuz.
Its likely that Smashing Pumpkins (and/or their label, publisher, etc) licensed Nugs to sell these and not to stream them.
Note that in nugs, you will find both “shows” and “albums” – there is a lot of variation in their catalog, but generally speaking twe believe the shows are exclusive to nugs, whereas many of the albums are available via other services like TIDAL and Qobuz.
For now you can stream shows in Roon via the Shows tab of the artist page (as well as via search or the Nugs page).
We look forward to expanding our support for nugs in the future, including support for their catalog of albums – you can find more details in our Knowledge Base.
Note that in nugs, you will find both “shows” and “albums” – there is a lot of variation in their catalog, but generally speaking twe believe the shows are exclusive to nugs, whereas many of the albums are available via other services like TIDAL and Qobuz.
Aha, that clarifies it. There are a few anomalies such as the ones being mentioned here, e.g. the Dylan Live 1966 and Zeppelin Celebration Day, which are live shows, but are technically albums as they were formal releases from the artists label and available on Tidal/Qobuz. I assume these are misplaced.
It reminded me of the famous quote: ‘So long as there’s an extra nickel to be drained by exploiting Led Zeppelin, it’s great. The fahking Stars and Stripes wave on.’ — Peter Grant.
So I wonder, how many of those advertised 30.000 shows in Roon Email advertising are for purchase only, and how many are really shows, or just albums also available in Qobuz or Tidal.
So I wonder, how many of those advertised 30.000 shows in Roon Email advertising are for purchase only, and how many are really shows, or just albums also available in Qobuz or Tidal
Good questions. I’ve been a Nugs subscriber for five+ years. Mainly because I’m a fan of Springsteen, Wilco, Counting Crows, Jack Black, Pearl Jam and there are hundreds of shows from them there. I would say most of what is on Nugs is available for both streaming and purchase. There doesn’t seem to be a lot that is purchase-only.
The vast majority of what is on Nugs is “shows” and not “albums”. You need to consider, though, that Nugs is dominated by a small number of “jam bands” with large catalogs of shows: Widespread Panic (>1000), Gov’t Mule (>1400), moe. (>1100), Umphrey’s McGee (>1900), String Cheese Incident (>1000), Disco Biscuits (980), Billy Strings (>600), Dead & Co (200). Then you have Pearl Jam, Metallica, Springsteen, Counting Crows, Jack White, Wilco. And that’s about it. If you like “jam bands” and any of those few major artists, then Nugs is for you. Otherwise, not much there for you. Its a nitch service.
I think it’s an awesome addition to Roon. But again, I already subscribe to Nugs, and this gives me everything I need from the small number of bands whose live shows I follow. But it’s not for the masses.
Thanks a lot for your answer. None of your listed bands are in my library and will never be I believe, but for sure I wanted to try Nugs as it is a great idea and free for 60 days.
Would be much easier to try and use it, if in the Roon “My Nugs” section my Roon artists would show up who have shows in Nugs, at least for the favorite artists in Roon. But who cares, there is still no “liked artist” synchronization between Roon and Qobuz after so many years, and guess, I won’t make a feature request for that.
Going through my Roon artists looking for the “Show” option available I have found some shows but quite all released as official live albums in Qobuz. But found a small number of videos on nugs.net of them. And I stumbled over 108 shows of Charlie Hunter which is one of my favourites. I have found a niche in the niche.
If Nugs evolves with time it will be a great service also for me, and I will subscribe for one or the other month whenever there is enough new to explore for my taste. Now, one Charlie Hunter show a day will last nearly 4 months with a different live concert every day. Facinating crazy.
This is good for me as I’m already a subscriber, but I am not a Hi-res subscriber, didn’t realize that was an option until now. It’s an extra $50 a year, may upgrade at some point. For those not familiar with Nugs, they also have some select shows throughout the year that you can stream live video (albeit on from their online site and phone/streamer apps). I’ve lately been enjoying the Johnny Blueskies (aka Sturgill Simpson) live shows.