I am writing to share an observation regarding the library synchronization of the new nugs.net integration.
While browsing the native nugs.net app, I noticed a wider selection of live performances and official releases for certain artists compared to what is currently visible within Roon. Although these shows are part of my active streaming subscription and playable in the native app, many do not yet appear in the Roon interface.
Example: Bob Dylan
nugs.net**** App: Shows an extensive collection of live recordings, including numerous volumes of “The Bootleg Series.”
Roon: Currently, only a single live recording (Manchester 1966) is displayed under the “Shows” tab or in the discography.
The Bootleg Series appear as under Discography and can be played from Qobuz or Tidal. The only show listed on nugs for Dylan is the 1966 Bootleg series, which is also available under Discography. I have no idea why Roon chose that one to list under both and the rest just under Discography, but they are all accessible on Roon with multiple subscriptions. Not ideal behavior but I assume it will be explained by someone at Roon or nugs in due time.
I’m assuming that it’s a mistake that the Dylan Live 1966 bootleg series album shows up under “Shows” in Roon. As I understand it, Roon’s intent is not to just feed anything in Nugs directly into Roon. It’s only the live concerts (which represent the vast majority of Nugs content), and that’s why they show up in a different section, labelled “Shows”. The only Bob Dylan items in Nugs are official releases (which you will find in Tidal and Qobuz), and just the Bootleg series, and two live albums. There’s nothing from Bob Dylan from Nugs that should show up in Roon.
There are similar issues with other artists who have a portion of their mainstream releases available in Nugs, e.g. Neil Young. There are 20 live albums that show up in Shows under Neil Young, but they really shouldn’t.
I assume there’s some metadata indicator that determines whether an item in Nugs will show up in Roon and that these will get sorted out in time.
So, if i understood right, for the example Bob Dylan,
All the content which i can see in the native nugs app, is also on Roon and mixed under the Discography Tab. Under the show Tab, i find the only concert what i confirm, which is also the only one on nugs.
Understood, It’s therefore not possible to identify the source of the content, Roon Tidal or Qobuz. Which makes sense to me from a user experience perspective.
All the content which i can see in the native nugs app, is also on Roon and mixed under the Discography Tab. Under the show Tab, i find the only concert what i confirm, which is also the only one on nugs.
No, I believe you are incorrect. There isn’t any content from Nugs in the Discography. Content in Discography is clearly labelled as from the local library, Tidal or Qobuz. Nugs content only appears under “Shows”. And the only items that will be under “Shows” is from Nugs. The purpose/intent of the Nugs/Roon integration appears to be to just bring in the live shows that are not part of the artist’s formal discography, a’la the hundreds of Pearl Jam shows that are not on available on mainstream streaming services, e.g. Tidal/Qobuz. Nugs also happens to have mainstream releases (some studio, some live) which are available in Tidal/Qobuz. For the most part, these seem to be filtered out of the Roon integration, will a few exceptions, such as that Dylan Live 1966 title, which is a standard Columbia/CBS release. I believe that’s there by mistake. That’s my understanding.
Right now, this data (album vs show) comes to Roon from nugs, and we take it “as is” – if nugs classifies a piece of content as a show, you will find it on Roon’s Artist page, under the Shows tab.
There’s some grey area here – some content released elsewhere as an album is classified as a “show” in Nugs, which means it will be accessible in Roon.
As I mentioned here, for now our nugs integration exclusively supports shows. We look forward to integrating nugs’ album content into the Roon library and artist discography in the future.