Also, Mac is much easier to use for someone who is less familiar with technology and more secure. I would strongly recommend for you to use a Mac if you are not comfortable with changing technology trends or have had viruses pop up on your computer before. I am an expert in Windows and Mac tech. If you were my family member I would have set up a secure Mac system for you with anti-malware software. My grandmother, grandfather, and great uncle use a Mac it’s so easy.
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That’s not necessarily true, I read somewhere in the help forum that when it is deprecated, you will still have access but with more limited functionality. They won’t force you to upgrade from 1.8
So FUD. /10char
As recently as a month ago. I’m running the core on an M2 Mac Mini with 16GB of RAM it was less responsive than my core on an i5 Mini with 16GB of RAM.
I have no doubt that if I stick with Roon (I’m an annual subscriber) that I may need to move to a current version at some future date. It’s not an onerous task.
I primarily listen to local files (my library is smallish at 40,000 tracks) and 1 streaming service. Playlists aren’t important to me, nor is folder browsing.
Out of Date OS plus Out of Date Code
smells like a recipe for hacking
Each to their own ?
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Read back where 1.8 was originally split off , it’s exactly what was said @Rugby is normally on the ball.
The main reason for ‘internet always on’ was to move certain features into newer technologies that needed ‘performance’ computers hence into cloud services rather than guarantee that a users PC would have sufficient power to manage Roon
Development software changes like people change socks , sooner or later , more like sooner, Roon will either have to abandon 1.8 or rewrite it as it’s software base is deprecated
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Not at all !
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MacOS Sonoma 14.5. Up to date. Hacking would require someone to get through my firewall. Are you suggesting that Roon is the vulnerability?
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If someone wants to hack you they will and you’ll probably never know. There are so many script kiddies out there now and getting into a home network isn’t hard if you know what you’re doing.
Having worked in network security this is patently false. My network in not exposed to the outside world and the password is long.
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@BCBC - may I offer what I hope (and think) may clarify matters, please?
I, too, have worked in several areas where security was an issue, and discussed often… it was just the responsible thing to do. Despite the best efforts of the team responsible, we nevertheless experienced intrusions.
I’ve re-read each post in this thread, and can’t find anyone saying that Roon and/or the network environment on which it relies is more or less vulnerable than any other application.
Nor indeed that any one version of Roon on any platform is more or less open to attack or be the object of malice than any other.
Nor do I (nor anyone else outside the developers at RoonLabs, I suspect) have any inside knowledge of steps and changes to the codebase which have, or have not, been necessary as Roon has matured from earlier versions (like 1.8) to the latest release.
But - potential (but rare) regressions aside - more recent versions and iterations are likely to be sounder, more robust and more secure than their predecessors. That’s just common sense.
Maybe these threads and conversations can all be discounted. But I’d also like to think I was doing everything I could anyway; wouldn’t you?
- Time to step up security of ROCK and Roon?
- Security Risk - IP Reputation Attacks
- Vulnerability in Roon Server - Security Advisory | QNAP (US)
I hope we’d all sympathize with your reluctance to updating if doing so might deprive you of functionality.
And hope that - were you to give details and ask for help here - whatever went wrong would be addressed. Again, a scan of the forum doesn’t suggest that your experience is widespread. So worth investigating!
I’d imagine that we’d all agree that you’re free only to upgrade if and when you want to.
But IMHO - and from five years experience as a happy Roon user - new releases are only released after thorough testing, and specifically because RoonLabs believes (and presumably has consistently found) that they are of the greatest benefit to the greatest number of users.