I can airplay without issue from anything else without a problem. Where are the logs located?
No idea on a NAS. @DDPS any ideas?
In your /{Roon SSD volume}/RoonOnNAS/RoonServer/Logs
Coming back to your point that the issue already began with Qobuz only in roon, without a local library. Have you tried disabling Qobuz in roon using only local library? Does the problem persist?
Hey @Tommy_Foster,
After reviewing your logs, we can see that there were failed playback attempts to your Yamaha receiver. It appears you’re using AirPlay for playback, and in these instances, Qobuz tracks failed to fully buffer. Would you be able to try connecting your receiver via an Ethernet cable to see if that improves playback stability?
Regarding the RAM size, I agree with others’ feedback that 6GB may be a bit low, especially with other processes running alongside Roon. While we haven’t observed immediate issues due to RAM, low memory can lead to unpredictable behavior that’s difficult to troubleshoot. If you’re planning to manage a library of around 100,000 tracks, increasing your RAM could help ensure smoother performance.
I’m not sure I understand; if I airplay from my phone, or a tablet, to the Yamaha receiver I don’t see these buffering issues. Is it a playback buffer on the Roon side that may not be large enough?
The Roon app installed on your phone or tablet serves as an interface for the RoonServer running on your NAS. While you can control playback from the app, all the processing and data streaming occur on the NAS itself, not on the mobile device.
To clarify your statement:
In the attempt above, are you using the Roon app or is it another app?
If it’s through Roon, this could either be a coincidence - meaning the issue didn’t occur by chance that time - or it may indicate that something is genuinely off in the setup. In that case, we’d need to look into the logs again after testing both scenarios: successful playback via the phone and playback that fails when trigger through Roon as well.
If you’re using another app for AirPlay and not seeing a problem, this test isn’t too conclusive, as different apps handle streaming and buffering differently, which could mask network or processing issues that Roon is more sensitive to.
Regarding the buffer size question, it’s not a matter of buffer size but rather a timeout issue when Roon struggles to fill the buffer quickly enough.
It’s me streaming from the Qobuz app on my phone to the receiver.
re: buffer size, yes, that makes sense. I wonder, is it possible that reducing the bitrate would help the buffering?
Since you’re streaming directly from the Qobuz app on your phone to the receiver, the NAS isn’t involved in this particular playback chain.
As for reducing the bitrate, this can be done within the Roon app if you’d like to adjust the streaming quality of Qobuz content through Roon. Here’s how:
- Open Roon and Access Settings:
- Launch the Roon app on your device.
- Click on the hamburger menu (three horizontal lines) in the top left corner.
- Press on the gear icon near the profile picture.
- Go to Services:
- In the Settings menu, locate and click on Services.
- Select Qobuz:
- In the list of services integrated with Roon, find and select Qobuz.
- Adjust Streaming Quality:
- In the Qobuz settings, you’ll see options to choose your streaming quality.
- Try out different quality settings
And don’t forget about the test suggested earlier - to try to hardware a streamer to the NAS
Hi @Tommy_Foster,
We haven’t seen activity on this thread or in diagnostics for some time, so we’re reaching out to see if the above suggestions had any effect.
Please let us know if you’re still encountering this problem and the team will continue to investigate.
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