Is Qobuz now replacing album versions in the background? Previously, when Qobuz got a new album version the old version became unavailable and you had to manually replace the old version with the new. I recently discovered a large group of albums in my library that were missing metadata (genre and ratings) that I had added quite some time ago. I’ve never had metadata go missing in Roon so the only thing I could think of to account for this is if the album version changed and the new version does not have my added metadata. Anyone else experiencing this?
Do you have an example of ones that seemed to have been replaced?
I would have thought that even if Qobuz did background switch an album, it would have to be the same release ID for it to still be favourited and still be in the Roon library, hence Roon would not know anything had happened and so would retain any previous added metadata associated with that release.
And if the Qobuz favourite was moved to a new release by Qobuz such that it was actually a different release, Roon would treat it as a new addition (so, the instance such as this, where no user metadata would be retained, should show up quite visibly as a new addition that the user did not add - and I have not seen that).
Just my impression, would be interested to know if that’s not the case.
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Can you give a few examples of albums where you saw this happen? Were they concentrated in particular record labels?
You know, like the dummy that I am, I fixed all the metadata so I can’t tell which albums were included. I’ll see if I can remember some and post later. The metadata that went missing is genre and rating.
Four days ago I suddenly had 58 albums that needed to be replaced manually again. So at least for me, the fairy tale did not come true. Before that it had been 46 days that no Qobuz album went unavailable (library of ca. 10k albums) though, so I was getting hopeful. Alas…
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That’s a different issue - and one that’s going to keep on happening. Qobuz regularly replace albums with new versions meaning that the tracks of the old versions become marked as unavailable in your Roon library.
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Different issue? The OP was implying that automatic instead of manual replacement of Qobuz albums might have been the cause of his missing metadata.
Nope, that’s not what the OP was saying - his issue is that metadata has gone missing and he suggested that cause might be an album replacement. However, as has been pointed out this is unlikely to be the root cause, since album replacements have a different ID and are treated as new additions.
Nope, that’s not what the OP was saying - his issue is that metadata has gone missing and he suggested that cause might be an album replacement.:thinking: How is that not exactly what I was saying?
Um, that’s exactly what I said. My thought was that rather than albums suddenly becoming unavailable, maybe Qobuz had replaced them in the background. That way the metadata would be missing such as genre and my own ratings. I haven’t seen it happen again yet, and when I do I’ll try to troubleshoot more rather than just fix it.
If it replaced them in the background, Roon wouldn’t even know about it and would still retain any previous metadata for them.
I know; my reply wasn’t to you but to @Teun_Romme - I said that you had replied that this was unlikely to be the root cause.
The issue is that metadata has gone missing - that’s what needs to be investigated…
Not if it unfavorited the old ID and favorited the new ID in the backgound. Why would it have to be the same release ID?
The thinking is that if it’s not the same release ID, then Roon would still have the old one in the database as well, and it wouldn’t have been replaced seamlessly.
If you unfavorite an album in Qobuz, is it not removed from the Roon library?
Anyway this is all speculation about a non-existent automation on the Qobuz side. Let’s stop here.
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If it replaced it with a different ID, Roon would think the new one was a totally new addition and it would show very visibly as a newly added release [which you haven’t added].
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That is correct!
It has happened to me on a few albums with Qobuz and Roon. Don’t think Qobuz considers Roon, or downloaded items on my iPhone, when they are managing content.
I recently had a slightly different experience. Example: Album ‘I Inside The Old Year Dying’ by PJ Harvey. I had marked this album as a Qobuz favourite and added it to a playlist in Qobuz. Recently Qobuz discontinued that release and replaced it with a new release. My playlist was updated automatically. In Roon the album was marked ‘unavailable’ and I had to replace it manually.