Recommended read: subjectivists vs objectivists vs audio innovation

Lars Risbo (CTO of Purifi and co-founder) gave the keynote address at the Audio Engineering Society’s 160th Convention reception on May 29, 2026: “Unreasonable Audio Innovation”.

He addresses the tribalism between the Subjectivist and Objectivist camps in the hi-fi community and argues that audio should be treated as engineering rather than purely art or rigid science:

The subjectivists tribe: audio is art, measurements are irrelevant, no explanation is too absurd provided it avoids actual data. You already know the reviewer quote.

The objectivists tribe: standard metrics are sufficient, double-blind testing is the only admissible evidence, and almost nothing is audible. And yet — paradoxically — they spend enormous effort optimising the same short list of metrics: THD, IMD, noise floor. Decade after decade. Regardless of whether those metrics capture what the ear is actually sensitive to.

What bothers me about both tribes is not that they disagree. It’s that neither is curious. Both have found a way to stop the inquiry and call it a conclusion.

Here’s the outline of his talk:

  1. Opening
  2. Two Tribes
  3. The Ear, Time, And The Missing Dimension
  4. Engineering, And The Hysteresis Story
  5. Floyd Toole — A Giant, And What Happened To His Caveats
  6. Surrogate Markers, Ancel Keys, And The Real Endpoint
  7. What Is At Stake
  8. Call To Action — Klippel, Millikan, And What Good Looks Like

It’s a good read (10 min) and thought provoking.

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A very helpful and interesting paper. Thank you for posting the link.

Unfortunately, they opted for 4 days of web server maintenance :wink:

It’s finally back up and quite good! Of course there is nothing new to the concepts of intellectual and epistemic humility, but I will add that the subjectivist “tribe” as he puts it is very much on the wrong side of humble reasoning. At least there is positive evidence for THD+N and Harman preference curves and their impact on the audio experience, including via rigorous listening tests. The hopeful subjectivist has only murky suspicions that are far too often exploited by snake-oil solutions chasing illusory problems. But, hear! hear! for further research and careful engineering. Perhaps some more veils occluding our understanding (and audio experience) will be lifted.

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