Roon library lost (second time)

In my experience and I can only speak of that, if your trying to access or use Roon whilst it’s building such a large library using all your NAS cores some pages may be slow. It would be best to let this run until it’s complete. What percentage is your CPU running at? You could throttle back the cores you are using to see if the overview page responds and listen to some music.

Personally, for a trial period I would have split my library up into smaller Music Folders (1TB or so) and added one folder at a time in the Roon Storage section. This way you could have tested Roon to see if it met your needs instead of waiting on the library being built but it’s up to you. Roon contains masses of information and comparing it with other software is a bit pointless but I understand your frustration.

Hope you get on okay. The guys on this forum are very helpful. Roon is great piece of music software and I’m sure you’ll be very happy when it’s up and running.

Fast nas or not without an ssd for the roon database it’s not going to be great

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The split in music folders will not work as I have also JRiver running and I don’t want to hurt my existing setup. I want to compare also the library functions as this is key to me and also the ability to handle the size of it.

What I find so far is that Roon is non-responsive (whilst having enough memory, compute power and running on SSD) if I want to do anything besides building up my library. I cannot even access TIDAL tracks, the wait is just indefinite. I am holding my horses till it is fully done processing to see the final performance…

It’s a pain having to wait but the right thing to do. Pity about not being able to split your library but you don’t want to mess anything up with other software. My QNAP TS 473 runs my system perfectly. I can carry out multiple tasks with ease whilst listening to music without any dropouts or other problems. I know many people are changing to NUCs but for me and others on this forum with QNAPs it suits my needs better and easily does everything I want it to do. Hope you get on okay, it will be well worth it in the end. Fingers crossed

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Mmh, running JRiver (does it also scan the library online?) together with Roon (while analyzing) can be a problem.
I’m using on the NAS only Roon, some DLNA-Servers and LMS, which have access to my music library directly.
My thought: Take your time an wait until Roon has finished the scan. After that you can start comparing, using filters, dsps,…

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I have moved JRiver to another server so I it no longer on the NAS
I just ran it on the NAS prior to Roon to benchmark performance

Hi @J_S,

I would also agree with the other users, the original scan process does take quite a bit of resources, but if you don’t mind having the scan take longer and have more resources while this is going on, you can disable or throttle Background Audio Analysis under `Roon Settings -> Library and that should help a bit.

You are running a trial of Roon, then I suggest turning the Analysis OFF.

It is there to create volume leveling and to generate the nice looking waveform. Neither of which is much necessary to experiencing Roon. If you decide to stick with Roon then you can go through the whole analysis; when that is the case, i would suggest you turn it ON when you are not using the NAS (i.e. when you are sleeping) and then turn it OFF when you use it. It will take longer but it will be doing the analysis during the time you are not using the system.

Settings / Library (Background Audio Analysis Speed and On-Demand Audio Analysis Speed to OFF

You might experiment with turning On-Demand AA on, but, that will introduce a small delay as the analysis is performed.

We are now 24 hours further, quick update.

  • Non responsive Roon server & core
  • When I login it lost my credentials (again)
  • No sign of any library
  • Killed the Roon server and started again
  • See same problems as mentioned above
  • Going through the log-files I found: /RoonDB2/RoonServer/Database/Core/b8333d8d9104454e95dcfba26e8e48e2/broker_2.db/000005.ldb: Input/output error
  • Rebooting the NAS in total

Truly puzzled now, rebooted started up everything again

  • Library empty
  • Audio devices empty
  • Keep stating my storage location is offline (which is very much online…)

Any ideas welcome

Tagging @support, any ideas on this?

New SSD drive (USB 3.0), New Library, All analysis of…

I would still run a small test copying some of your music into another Shared Folder on your NAS rather than going through the pain of waiting hours on end with your existing library. Get it working first with help from support then import your main library. You can always remove that test folder afterwards and clean up the library in Roon.

I’ve had Roon working in various years, so I know it works however it’s feature set and stability has been a concern on a large library. So that’s why after 1,5 years since my last test, I decided to give it a go again. The full library is the first test, features next…

Ok music library is complete, making a backup now and trying to see if I can get analysis to work

One interesting observation:

  • JRiver: 290565 tracks
  • Roon: 258760 tracks {3029 tracks (not images) skipped and incl 406 Tidal tracks}

Left me wondering where the other roughly 28.000 tracks are…

Quick one is there a way to export for instance a view in excel so I can compare libraries to understand which files are missing?

thanks for letting me know

Tracks
Select All
3 dot menu
choose Export
Choose Export to Excel

I then dump them into a database program to run comparisons.

Hi @J_S,

This sounds like there could be an issue with the database, can you please access your Roon logs by using these instructions and send me a set? If you don’t have Dropbox / Google Drive / ect. let me know and I can provide an alternate upload location.

Thanks
Found most of the differences:

  • Roon has hidden a lot of tracks which it deemed duplicate (some correct, some not, some wrong version chosen)
  • Also JRiver unpacks certain file types in individual tracks and shows them in the library, Roon leaves them as a single file.
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Sorry started over again and now have a working setup after a couple of days. Slowly running the analysis on the library now after a backup so let’s see what happens

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