Roon Network Changes IPv6

[Torben_Rick (Torben - A Dane living in Hamburg - Roon Lifer)]

Based on this announcement:

Roon network discoverability changes coming

Hello Roon users, We’ll soon be updating how Roon Remotes and Roon Servers find each other on your network and how they communicate with services on the internet. This change simplifies Roon’s networking and improves reliability for most users (especially those using ARC), but a small number of advanced or unusual setups may need to make adjustments. What’s Changing Historically, Roon has ignored IPV6 DNS records (AAAA) and always used IPv4 DNS records (A). We are now removing this old IPv4-on…

I did a IPV6 test with my ISP and everything turns green (test-ipv6.com).

But with my VPN (NordVPN) the IPV6 turns red. Not sure where that leaves me.

Roon, streaming etc. currently works just fine with NordVPN.

ARC works with VPN (WireGuard) on my Router

Torben

[Jim_F (Minimalist)]

I have no idea what any of this means. I ran the test from my Dell XPS 15, Mac Mini (late 2014), and Nuc Box G5 and got all OK’s. I hope this means there will be no problems with my AT&T U-Verse gateway setup.

[mjw (Here I am with a brain the size of a planet and they ask me to pick up a piece of paper. Call that job satisfaction? I don't.)]

This is the relevant part of the anouncement.

If your ISP supports IPV6, Roon will now function just as most software on your network. If your ISP doesn’t support IPV6, nothing changes.

So, I’d say no change for you.

[Dirk_De_Taey]

The result of my test-ipv6.com = 0/10, i.e. my ISP does not support IPv6.
As stated in the announcement, i.e. nothing should change for me.

We will see !

[Mr.Flibble]

Just make sure IPv6 is disabled on your router and pray

[Peter_Bruderer]

You are using a “unique local” IPv6 address on your FritzBox. This address can only be used locally in your subnet. It is not an official provider assigned IPv6 address. That means your Fritzbox is doing NAT on IPv6 too. This breaks IPv6 globally if you are not doing NAT.

[Torben_Rick (Torben - A Dane living in Hamburg - Roon Lifer)]

THX, I don’t use NAT and Port Forward is not activated.

This is the solution that I have activated (German):

WireGuard einfach mit dem PC einrichten | Frag FRITZ! 106

It works super with ARC.

Torben

[Roland_von_Unruh]

When doing the ipv6 test on my home network I get a 10/10 result. This was to be expected as the Router is configured for native IPv6 connection. The router has both IPv4 and IPv6 external addresses.

Doing the same test on the mobile network from my cell phone, I get a 0/10 (Vodafone.de, 5G Network) indicating that on the mobile network there’s only IP v4 available.

ARC works fine at the moment. Does the change announced by Roon mean, that it won’t work any longer in the future, because the mobile network doesn’t support IPv6 and therefore doesn’t find the RoonServer anymore, which does support and use IPv6?
Do I have to disable IPv6 on my router to make it work again? This would be rather unfortunate!

[Mike_O_Neill]

A resounding 0/10

Dr. Google tells me IPV6 uptake in South Africa is lower than the global average

Heres hoping

[Wade_Oram]

@Roland_von_Unruh

Does the change announced by Roon mean, that it won’t work any longer in the future, because the mobile network doesn’t support IPv6 and therefore doesn’t find the RoonServer anymore, which does support and use IPv6?

No. It just means that ARC will continue to use the IPv4 connection when connecting via your mobile provider - ie there should be no change.

[Womaz (Steve)]

As a non technical person I literally have no idea what any of this means

I don’t use ARC, does this mean I will not be affected?

Is it being done to try and improve the connectivity of ROON remotes ?

[RTaylor3rd (Rudy Taylor)]

sounds like heads I win tails you lose.

[Roland_von_Unruh]

It‘s my understanding, that this change also affects Roon devices on your home network, i.e. if IPv6 is enabled on your home network but not all Roon devices (Server, Remotes, Endpoints) use IPv6 you might run into issues like Remote not finding server, server not finding endpoints etc.

[Roland_von_Unruh]

i think this happens because as a default setting, the FritzBox only assings ipv6 dns adresses via dhcpv6.

This can be changed in settings:
home network > network > network settings > ipv6 settings > dhcpv6 server

There are options to assing dns only (default), dns + ipv6 prefix, dns + ipv6 prefix + ipv6 adress. with either of the last two adresses, you also get GUA ( global unique adress) for local devices using the ipv6 prefix provided by the isp.

I don‘t know though, whether this would be necessary for Roon to work in the future or if it‘s sufficent for all devices to have local unique adresses.

[Suedkiez (Just a fellow user like you)]

@Roland_von_Unruh

Doing the same test on the mobile network from my cell phone, I get a 0/10 (Vodafone.de, 5G Network) indicating that on the mobile network there’s only IP v4 available.

I get 10/10 also with German Vodafone, phone is on 5G

[Roland_von_Unruh]

A quick google search on this indicates that vodafone secure net breaks ip v6 connectivity. This seems to be the case for me.

[Torben_Rick (Torben - A Dane living in Hamburg - Roon Lifer)]

@Suedkiez

I get 10/10 also with German Vodafone, phone is on 5G

T-Mobile 10/10 on iPhone. With NordVPN activated 0/10

With VPN (WireGuard) on my Router and iPhone activated 0/10

Torben

[Roland_von_Unruh]

Just tried this with my wives phone (also vodafone but different contract) and get a10/10 there as well.

[Suedkiez (Just a fellow user like you)]

@Roland_von_Unruh

vodafone secure net breaks ip v6 connectivity

It also breaks other things. 0/10 software and the first thing I cancel (because they try to sneak it into new contracts for an additional fee after a trial period)

[Suedkiez (Just a fellow user like you)]

@Torben_Rick

With NordVPN activated 0/10

No idea about NordVPN but googling seems to tell me that they support IPv6.

I use Apple Private Relay and get 10/10 with and without it on Vodafone Germany