I’ve just received my Roon Nucleus One. I’m in the UK, so am probably one of the first to get one here.
It would be fair to say that I found the setup guide a little “frustrating”, as it simply didn’t cover how to setup a Nucleus into which I was going to fit a 2TB SSD.
To save you from a similar level of annoyance, here’s what I’ve found:
Buy yourself an SSD. Personally I’ve gone with a Samsung 870 Pro 2TB, which has roughly double the capacity that I current need and has the correct connections to fit.
Note that Roon applies it’s own format to the drive whilst enabling it. This WILL overwrite any data on the drive, so don’t waste your time pre-loading the drive with music
Before powering up the Nucleus One, turn it over and remove the hatch (the video accessible via the image shown in the box explains this nicely)
Fit the SSD drive and refit the hatch
Plug in the PSU and wire up the ethernet cable to your network
Turn on your Nucleus One
Log into whichever app you normally use to control Room. In my case, I used the App that I have installed on the PC that I have previously been using as a Server
Open the Settings page within the Room App
Go to Setup
Click on the button for “Find Room OS”. That will display a pop up box (at least on Windows)
There is an IP address shown. Click on that, which will open the “Nucleus Web Administrative Interface”
There’s a “Format” button next to “Internal Music Storage”. Click on the “Format” button
You can now close down the “Nucleus Web Administrative Interface” page
Open the Room App (again, I use the App on my PC, as that’s where my music was primarily hosted)
Click on “Albums” in Roon. It’ll be empty as you’ve not as yet loaded anything
Open File Manager, and browse to your music folder
Drag and drop directly from file manager into the Roon Albums page and it’ll copy whatever you’ve chosen
Jobs a good un’.
When you know how, it’s dead easy.
Unfortunately, someone thought it appropriate to talk about setting up Windows file and folder sharing, which frankly, is just NOT needed.
Absolutely nothing, IF you know where to find it or that you SHOULD need to find it.
If that had been mentioned in the setup guide, might have been a bit useful.
Did that on day one with my Nucleus years ago but it might not be basic network knowledge for everyone.
I did the same with my Zappiti video player at the time and recently with my Zidoo.
For the movie/TV show lovers out here, a Zidoo to me is like a Nucleus for video.
Don’t forget to make backups of your music and your library guys.
For the library you can set up automatic backups to an external USB drive or network location (NAS, computer, Dropbox, …) in Roon itself.
For your music you can have a NAS make a backup of your Nucleus, a Mac with CCC or Super Duper or a PC with Macrium Reflect or various other backup applications.
Drag and Drop has its own issues, imho. The albums copied this way are dropped into different folders per time copied and under a different master folder based on the computer it was copied from. Makes it useless to view your library that you’ve copied.
Here are 3 albums dragged and dropped. Can you tell what they are?
Not sure what you’ve been doing but here are mine, all dragged and dropped into folders and naming of my own choice.
I can organize and name the folders any way I want.
I was showing how Roon saves files when you drag and drop ONTO the Roon application, which is what the OP was describing. I personally have a direct link to the share folder and copied music which looks to be like you have.
Try dropping an album onto the Roon Album page like the OP is suggesting and then look at the file structure to see what Roon did with it.
Exactly, if there’s a set up guide included, it needs to show how to set it up.
Or just point to the latest online guide which is I assume kept relevant.
The latter seems the easiest solution
Yeah, not a good idea to drag and drop onto the Roon application it seems. Never even thought of that.
Best to just access his Nucleus drive with Finder/Explorer.
Sorry for my ignorance but what is this screenshot showing and how did you achieve this. I went down the drag on route but would like a better organisation.
The screenshot shows the internal SSD in my Nucleus but it could just as well be a USB attached drive.
I have my music organized there in 2 main folders: one for classical and on for modern music.
From your PC or Mac you mount the internal or USB drive of your Nucleus as a network drive.
Then you can make folders, drag and drop onto those folders, reorganize, etc…
I went through pretty much the same procedure with my nucleus one and an internal SSD. It was more straightforward than I was expecting a I found the help guides quite confusing. I went internal for the ssd for a neat set up. Dragged and dropped my files from the external SSD using an old MacBook. Just took it slowly, a few at a time and tidied up metadata as I went.
Now I’m planning to add an old thumb drive to the nucleus for database backup. Again this is confusing for a novice who has no clue how network shares work and doesn’t use Dropbox.
Using a thumb drive for this purpose is not a good idea. You would probably be better to go for a small USB attached external SSD or even an external HDD if mechanical noise is not an issue.
Thumb drives tend not to be very reliable when being frequently written to. External SSDs or HDDs, by contrast, are designed to handle writing much more frequently. They are not too expensive either these days. The cheapest in the UK tend to be around £65 and even Samsung 1TB T7 external SSD can be found for ~£85.
Also, the extra capacity means that you can cycle backups over a longer period which means that, should you experience database corruption and not notice it for a while, you are more likely to be able to find an older backup that was performed before the database corruption.
I’ve actually got a pair of 1tb Samsung T7’s with my music back ups on. I could have used one for my music with the Nucleus One but went with internal for neatness…
Using one for database backup could work as I’ve now got double backups of my music files. Alternatively I could fire up my nuc that used to run Roon core and use that for the database backup - if I can get my head around network sharing.
