Rugby's Weekly Roon User and Music Google Chat

We also talked about MQA. Their DSD to PCM thing seems to be a response to the fact their technology doesn’t work with DSD so their solution is to convert it to PCM which introduces problems which they then “fix” with their MQA processing. Just leave it DSD. Then no problems.

Their “new” MQA thing sounds exactly like their old MQA thing except now it works on all PCM and will be standard on all Bluesound devices. I kind of like this approach for whatever they are calling it. Kind of like any other streamer / DAC that uses a fixed processing up-sampling rate to get consistent performance. I’m sure the Bluesound devices will sound better which is great because I’ve never been convinced they sound great to begin with.

I’m sure it will be great for someone. Just not a technology I’m interested in anymore.

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Ohh, sounds like an interesting convo. Thanks for hosting again. Still fighting a cough. :frowning:

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I’m not having much luck interfacing with Yes - Going for the one. I really don’t like Jon Anderson’s voice and find it all quite emotionless, albeit with some great playing.

The Genesis is more listenable but i really can’t get past the like of

There is lambswool under my naked feet
The wool is soft and warm
Gives off some kind of heat
A salamander scurries into flame to be destroyed Imaginary creatures are trapped in birth on celluloid
The fleas cling to the golden fleece
Hoping they’ll find peace
Each thought and gesture are caught in celluloid
There’s no hiding in memory
There’s no room to avoid

Similarly, for me, there’s no great soul or emotion here and doesn’t have a good enough dance beat to make up for this. Once again I can appreciate the musicianship.

Too busy Lookin’ after No. 1 in 1977 to be worrying about scurrying salamanders.

.sjb

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Aahh. Carpet Crawlers is one of my favorite songs. The lyric to quote is " You got to get in to get out", with all the overt sexual innuendos involved since the album is about sex and masculinity.

You should listen to “The Grand Parade of Lifeless Packaging” which, imho, was a marvel of recording/editing in 1973/1974. Eno was involved in getting the sound and the vocal processing on that track. In fact, that album is at the forefront for vocal processing, decades before it has become the norm.

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Nice Boomtown reference @Sloop_John_B. ‘Seconds Out’ reminds me of my first “serious” girlfriend. I saw her again a few years ago, and she mentioned that she educated her kids to loving ‘A Trick Of The Tail’, primarily because of my influence.
I bought a second hand copy of ‘Going For The One’ last year, as mine left home many years ago. The second hand copy had some ‘Sounds’ and ‘Melody Maker’ articles stuffed inside the sleeve. Nice reading, in retrospect. The Prog Rock era was in it’s death knell at that time and deep down I think the dinosaur bands knew it.
Having said that - Parallels has a killer Chris Squire bass line and I do still have a soft spot for the whole album :blush:

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I suggested Drama when Yes was Yes/Buggles. Have you listened to it yet. Jon is not with the band the one of the Buggles is singing lead.

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I did listen to Tempus Fugit one of the ticked tracks which didn’t prevent me from moving on to one of my haul of CDs bought in Manchester last weekend.

It probably doesn’t help that the only person I know who was into Prog was my (now ex-) brother-in-law who was a bit of a scurrying salamander himself.

.sjb

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I saw them on that tour. even got their autographs, as they were watching some amateur football on the afternoon of the gig, behind the venue (Deeside Leisure Centre) To be fair, Horn was trying to sound like Anderson.

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Since I missed giving a musical suggestion, I’m doing it now. Track: Duke Ellington Bridge.

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I suggested both these albums because they were much loved by me at ages 16 (Yes) and 18 (Genesis) respectively. There is probably a fair amount of rose coloured glasses in my recollection. Not liking Jon’s voice is a common hurdle for Yes appreciation and I think I grew used to it rather than actively liking it. He’s the only member whose solo albums I didn’t seek out.

Seconds Out is the album I first smoked (quite a lot of) hooch to and that may have something to do with it. Perhaps if you repeated the experiment stoned out of your gourd? Like Daniel Carpet Crawlers remains a real favourite, although I see it as more about having to endure suffering from the experience of life before achieving detached enlightenment, rather than sex.

But thanks for trying. Always interesting to hear your views.

I was also listening to punk and new wave (whatever that is) at the time I was listening to prog and jazz fusion. I never felt any dissonance between these styles, possibly because I was an optimist with few musical opinions who liked everything (except polka). All my friends and acquaintances thought there were ‘some’ good records in my collection, they just vigorously disagreed as to which.

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Don’t Forget This Month is The Chat’s 4th Year Anniversary!!

Today’s meeting will be at the same time as usual, 3 pm EST. So, crack open a beverage of choice, and join us if you can.

The chats revolve around Roon, other hardware/software audio topics, or just music. If you are having an issue with Roon, or, hardware or network setups, let us know and we will try and help!

Please keep in mind, everyone here is a fellow user like yourself; so this is NOT an official Roon chat.

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End of Year Best Lists!

Today’s meeting will be at the same time as usual, 3 pm EST. So, crack open a beverage of choice, and join us if you can.

The chats revolve around Roon, other hardware/software audio topics, or just music. If you are having an issue with Roon, or, hardware or network setups, let us know and we will try and help!

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End of Year Best Lists! For Real!

Today’s meeting will be at the same time as usual, 3 pm EST. So, crack open a beverage of choice, and join us if you can.

The chats revolve around Roon, other hardware/software audio topics, or just music. If you are having an issue with Roon, or, hardware or network setups, let us know and we will try and help!

Please keep in mind, everyone here is a fellow user like yourself; so this is NOT an official chat.

Discussions Best of 2024! Lists

AceRimmer’s Choices

Best of 2024.

HERE COMES THE RAIN…MAGNUM
THE CIRCUS AND THE NIGHTWHALE…STEVE HACKETT
THE LIKES OF US…BIG BIG TRAIN
INVINCIBLE SHIELD…JUDAS PRIEST
ORGY OF THE DAMNED…SLASH
1…DEEP PURPLE
THE ART OF LETTING GO…MYLES KENNEDY
REVOLUTION…SKILLET
NO HILL FOR A CLIMBER…NEAL MORSE
THE LAST WILL AND TESTAMENT…OPETH.

Bubbling Under.

IT LEADS TO THIS…THE PINEAPPLE THIEF
CLEAR COLD BEYOND…SONATA ARCTICA
HUMANOID…ACCEPT
ELI…TERRAMAZE
THE NIGHT THE ZOMBIES CAME…PIXIES
ABYSS…AD INFINITUM

Dan Sullivan

Dan Sullivan
(On Vinyl)

Bill Evans Conversations with Myself

Barbra Streisand Bon Soir

Julliard String Quartet Death and the Maiden

Ida Presti & Alexandre Lagoya. Nonesuch Music For the Classical Guitar

Rugby’s choices

Spectres Presence
Brigitte Calls Me Baby The Future is Our Way Out
the Cure Songs of a Lost World
ghost Rite Hear Rite Now (Live)
Real Estate Daniel
Aurora Clara IV
Hammock From the Void
Glasbird Fenscapes
Ryuichi Sakamoto Opus
Cindy Lee Diamond Jubilee
Khruangbin A La Sala

Honorable Mention

FKA Twigs Perfect Stranger (single)
Stone Horses Free (Remixed Single)

https://madvrenvy.com/

IPEverywhere’s

Waxahatchee

Adrianne Lenker’s Bright Future

Rat Wars by HEALTH

Nostaliga by Hania Rani

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2024 Releases Most Played
Khruangbin - A La Sala
Long Distance Love - Various Artists (Lowell George Covers)
Cigarettes After Sex - X’s
The Necks - Bleed
Ryuichi Sakamoto - Opus
Pat Metheny - MoonDial
Vikingur Olafsson - Continuum
Paul Weller - 66
Primal Scream - Come Ahead
Odyssey - Nubia Garcia
Woodland - Gillian Welch and David Rawlings
Phil Manzanera - Fifty Years of Music (1975-1982)

Honourable Mention
Amyl and the Sniffers - Cartoon Darkness

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Some faves from this year, but a lot of great stuff came out this year :slight_smile:
St. Vincent - All Born Screaming
Hermanos Gutierrez - Sonidos Cosmicos
The Cure - Songs of a lost world
Beth Gibbons - Lives Outgrown
Magdalena Bay - Imaginal Disk
Nilufer Yanya - My Method Actor
Adrienne Lenker -Bright Future
Chelsea Wolfe - She reaches ou to she reaches out to she
Khruangbin- A La Sala
Waxahatchee -Tigers Blood

on repeat lately:
Michael Kiwanuka - Small Changes
Kendrck Lamar- GNX

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Haha so much good music came out this year. A top 50 might be easier

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except for Presti & Lagoya, they are on Quobuz

Also Babs album is Bon Soir, not Non Soir

Dan

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An Idi Presti alternative that is on Quobuz

Ida Presti & Alexandre Lagoya: Classical Music For Two Guitars (2024 Remastered

Listen to the Albinoni, track 2

Also this counts for a 2024 release :grinning:

Dan

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My Qobuz doesnt seem to have that one, but I do have others, including The Complete Philips Recordings a 3 CD compilation which is sounding very good. Albinoni is first track on that and whoever is playing the ‘lead’ has exquisite finger tremelo. Also, apropos of very little, Albinoni was a lawyer, which just goes to show how few musicians are …

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