Rush - The Studio Albums 1989-2007 HDtracks 96/24

I’ve been working on these 7 albums, trying to get the right metadata and it’s not easy. Roon sees the set as original albums. I am able to edit album information and select Identify Album. For example, the album Snakes & Arrows, Roon finds it as the original album, and I’m able to change it to The Studio Albums. The problem is that the songs show up at the top of the list and Snake & Arrows is Disk #7, so I have to manually click the down arrow on each song and move it about 100 songs down, in order to match up.
I’ve tried deleting the albums, editing the directory and file names into a different format and then importing again. Each time it selects the original album. I’ve tried:

/Music
/Rush
/The Studio Albums 1989-2007
/CD1
/01 Track.flac
/02 Track.flac
/nn
/CD2
/01 Track.flac
/02 Track.flac
/nn
etc.

Also:

/Rush
/The Studio Albums 1989-2007
/CD1
/01-01 Track.flac
/01-02 Track.flac
/01-nn
/CD2
/02-01 Track.flac
/02-02 Track.flac
/02-nn
etc.

Also:

/Rush
/The Studio Albums 1989-2007
/01-01 Track.flac
/01-02 Track.flac
/01-nn
/02-01 Track.flac
/02-02 Track.flac
/02-nn
etc.

I always get the same result. Am I doing something wrong? I’ve now just left them as the original albums, since it’s too much tedious work to change them. Anybody with this set able to get it working?
Cheers,
Greg

I have this set too and wondering why you would want them set up as one big box set? I believe the metadata from HDtracks has them set as individual albums just in a folder called “Studio Albums…”. Just curious is all.

Thanks @Mystic. I tend to agree with you. However, some people are really meticulous about their data and would want it perfect (I’m not one of them). The albums should at least show the correct release date.
I guess I’m just pointing out that although the correct metadata is available, Roon is not finding it properly (automatically), no matter how you have your file structure set up.

Hey @Greg – thanks for the report.

I’m looking into this, and I can tell you these kinds of multi-album reissue sets can be quite tricky. I know it took some work for me to get the remastered Bill Withers set “right”.

I’m going to check what’s in our database, but so I can understand your goal here, are you looking to have 7 albums, each tagged as The Studio Albums? Or one 7-disc album? It sounds like you don’t want these listed as the original release, which is fine – just want to make sure I understand your preference.

And sorry about all the up and down clicking – we’re working on some fixes for that screen, but they’re not quite ready yet :frowning:

Hey @Greg someone on our team had this set handy, so I was able to get my hands on the media and play around a bit. A couple of observations.

The albums initially identified as their original releases – this seems reasonable, and would be my personal preference, but I was still a little surprised so I checked file tags. In my files, all 7 discs were listed as Disc 1 of 1, which explains why we treated these as single discs.

Editing the tags fixed the issue for me – I ended up with a 7 disc set with full metadata:

Does that answer your question? If you’re looking for individual covers/data for each disc, that’s not currently supported, although we are looking into it.

For now, if you want to match these files to the 7 disc set, it needs to be grouped that way.

Hi @mike, thanks for taking time to educate me on this. I appreciate the fact that you guys are incredibly busy, yet take the time to answer questions. I’m absolutely addicted to this software. It really makes finding music fun.

Regarding this album set, I’m starting to understand how this process of matching up the metadata works. It must be difficult having people want different things with the same music. I understand what you’re saying about the tags and how the albums were selected.

Anyway, yes, you did help to answer my questions. It’s up to me to decide how I want the albums to show in my system. That, I’m still not sure of yet. I’ll play with it for a while.

Thanks again.
Greg

I have the Police’s Message in a Box and mine showed up as a 4 disc set.

Two questions:

  1. Are you saying the way to get it to match as the individual albums is to change the metadata in the files?

  2. If the individual albums are recognized that way is it possible to have the “extra” tracks still recognized as Message in a Box? and Is it possible to have the individual albums identified as coming from Message in a Box?

Our identification process is pretty complex, and uses a wide variety of factors to match the album to our database. Whether you’re editing file tags or doing the edits in Roon, the closer you are to the original release, the more likely it is that Roon will pull down the data you want.

For Message In A Box, if the file tags say it’s a four disc set, we’re likely to match it as the set. If you wanted to pull Zenyatta Mondatta out of that set, you could change the file tags or use Roon’s Album Grouping feature, but keep in mind that the Message In A Box set is now going to be missing files, so you’re less likely to get the full set’s metadata for the remaining tracks.

Hopefully that’s clear. The identification process is sufficiently complex that it’s hard for me to be more specific than that, but let me know if you have additional questions.

Thanks, Mike. I changed the tags of the songs for the individual albums and put them in subfolders with the album names inside of the Message in a Box folder and left the extra tracks in the main folder. I did not change file names nor did I change the disc number. Soon saw the albums as individual ones and allowed me to identify the correctly. And the extra tracks stayed as Message in a Box. Sweet.