100% agree, I didn’t stop finding new music when I used it years ago or when I used it exclusively for 3 months earlier this year.
@Marin_Weigel are you using Camilla within lms or running outside. I have struggled to get DSP working to a satisfactory level or without much pain so far which is why I returned to Roon after my 3 month’s abstaining. I need to use convolution for one of my listening zones as it’s a nightmare space bass wise.
Any pointers would be appreciated.
Maybe they should focus less on ARC for a while and fix more basic issues…Also I think the roon software with its DSP features is a bit to greedy with the hardware and could be optimized better for apple Silicon / and rock also .
In my setup, LMS and cDSP are both installed on the same RPi5, if that‘s what you mean.
This sort of setup needs a configured loopback device for the stream to be routed from LMS to cDSP and then to the output device.
CamillaDSP can‘t be installed from within LMS like a plugin.
It‘s always a separate install, either on the same server hardware or external to it.
EDIT:
Once you found the right loopback config in cDSP, it‘s flawless, no glitches, no pain to keep running as desired.
What‘s your specific dissatisfaction with?
There is a plugin that I have tried called SqueezeDSP which is server side DSP but I had issues getting it to run smoothly and it has limitations , I don’t wont endpoint based DSP as I also would use it elsewhere for headphones also I don’t use a Pi. I don’t thing Camilla will run server side so it’s likely not of use to me. I read into it once and it looks overly complex.
I think they have fundamental problems with the database and Roon as a whole. My experience since v2 has been not good. Prior to this no issues at all. I think the design decisions made way back are now causing problems with its scalability and stability and I feel they lost sight of its core functions with shiny new toys. Which for a while take your mind of why does this not work as well as it should. The development over the years sees this with features coming out half done or half thought out, patched but never reach their potential.
Recently I have been playing Vinyl more often. Why ? It just works without annoying issues… endpoints missing ? Qobuz suddenly skipping? Tracks missing in roon that work just fine in qobuz ? Had it all recently… not enough to make me look for a roon replacement but I don’t need ARC and most of the metadata … I don’t use roon radio
Give me a basic offline mode without all the bells and whistles
I have also gone back to basics, I removed all favourites from Qobuz as Roon really doesn’t work well with Qobuz in this regard and I wanted more of my own library not a rented one. I still use it for playing new material to decide if I want it but don’t keep them in my library anymore. I just want the fundamentals to work like a mature piece of software which Roon should be now but isn’t.
I do Love qobuz as a service and I will subscribe again to the Sublime subscription to purchase files from them during the next sale … great to discover music for sure. And also plenty of stuff I don’t want to buy but the stuff that I like will get a purchase in one way or the other… but there is the problem.
Dynamic Range , Mastering and Bonus Material is often better on physical releases.
So now I’m running roon , subscribe to Qobuz but still end up buying music left and right as digital files or end up ripping audio Blu-ray’s , CDs and SACDs + LPs since a while to get stuff that is not available or super expensive as digital media.
Most normal people would consider this already crazy without knowing the price of a lifetime roon subscription + the hardware necessary for roon… but I can’t even argue with them if the software is also buggy and starts to feel like windows Vista …
Really hope they take a step back from ARC and the gimmicks and improve performance of the basic features. But it feels like roon keeps going in the wrong direction…
You are among friends and we all know that we are crazy, or at least strongly suspect.
100% agree with your comments on ARC and deleted it from all my devices sever months back based to being let down too many times. I feel liberated now that I have reliable music playback when out of the house.
I also removed TIDAL and ARC from my Roon setup last week. My good recommendations seem to come from them and less from Roon, though only time will tell. I still have both setup in LMS and my 76k local library to play back in Roon, and that is what I originally bought Roon for.
Similar situation…
What are you using for music when you’re away from home? My biggest problem is having to duplicate the playlists I have on Roon on another service everytime I add new songs. I’m experimenting with Plexamp but its relationship with Tidal will end soon.
You’re probably not asking me, but anyways, I’m not a playlist kinda guy, so use Qobuz app with downloaded albums or USB audio player pro with a selection of my own music on my Android smart phone.
Paul sorry to say I am am old fashioned album listener so I don’t really do playlists.
I have LMS and Plex Server for traveling, and have Tidal, Qobuz and YT music for streaming.
I mostly use Symfonium (an Android only app) for my music as it works very nicely with Plex server. I currently have about 10k songs offline for playback (in 320KB ogg format) and that is perfect for travel.
If you are playing with PlexAmp then look at the Sonic Explorer options as once you have analysed your library this can work great for creating playlist type radio stations
UAPP does have Qobuz integration
Plexamp is great for usage outside the house, it’s usually all I use when I’m on holiday as it’s 100% reliable. I compliment it with the Qobuz app if I need to listen to something I don’t own.
I have YT music as well as it’s included with my YouTube sub, but it’s a last resort.
That’s exactly how I look at YT Music as well.
I keep my Metal sampling on TIDAL, everything else is on Qobuz, and if possible I buy them from BandCamp, then onto Qobuz if that fails
Only for streaming but not for offline-listening, which is only possible with downloads in the native app.
I am having the exact same issues as you regarding track skipping and failures, especially when using a DAC output directly into an amp. I updated version 15.1 of the public beta 3, which has not resolved the issue. I have enjoyed Roon for three years, but I may have to part ways until their tech support realizes this affects multiple users and develops an update fix.
Yep still an issue. Its been acknowledge, and yet to be addressed.
I hear the popping when executing transport controls using my Bluetooth headphones, desktop, and active multi way setups. Its not just observed on complex Multiway setups. Its there for everyone.
The issue has been acknowledge since 2019 as a significant RAAT issue, and significant undertaking to fix. 