Shuffle left “on” - Can it be made to timeout to off

[Mrmb]

@AE67

The problem is that the shuffle button is only available on the queue screen.

If shuffle is activated and you are in an album view and want to play it unshuffled you have to click a lot: go to queue screen, click shuffle button, go back to your album, click play.

That you can’t see in album view, if shuffle is activated, don’t make it better. I cannot remember how often I started to play an album and it don’t play in order. Very frustrating.

Imho shuffle should be automaticly diabled if you click ‘play now’ on an album. All other play modes or playing single tracks should let the shuffle mode unchanged.

Or the shuffle button should be in the footer, so you can always see the shuffle mode.

@Turning off shuffle

Roon programmers, please, for the love of all that is holy, make shuffle persist only for the length of the queue that is playing when shuffle is turned on (including any tracks that may be added while the queue is still playing). That is, once the queue is exhausted, turn shuffle off. Better yet have a parameter that lets the customer choose how he wants shuffle to act.

As many other Roon users – given the proclivity of posts – I got bitten by the Shuffle SNAFU today and had to come here to figure it out. Why? Well, to paraphrase Roon’s COO, Danny Dulai:

If you’re one of the unlikely and rare users (wonder if the Roon gang keeps a running tally?) who wanted to use shuffle and found it, you will probably figure out how to turn it off. We don’t want to correct our non-intuitive shuffle implementation, because of those users who have already figure-IT out.

Yup, that makes sense:
Why do as others have cogently suggested; when you can continue to frustrate future users, because former users were somehow able to figure their way out of the Shuffle maze.

@danny

Queue shuffle is such an uncommonly used feature we decided to move it to the queue and off the main footer.

Those people who turn it on, probably would figure out how to turn it off. in my opinion it’s not a very useful feature, but we didn’t want to break backwards compatibility with the users that did use it.