Core Machine (Operating system/System info/Roon build number)
nucleus +
Network Details (Including networking gear model/manufacturer and if on WiFi/Ethernet)
Not a network issue
Audio Devices (Specify what device you’re using and its connection type - USB/HDMI/etc.)
Not an audio device issue
Description Of Issue
I am fully updated on all devices and am still getting the 5000 shuffle limit. You sure this was fixed??
As far as I understand it, the fix was only meant to address the previous behaviour of shuffle taking the first 5k tracks from the active sort, in alphabetical order. Now it is a random selection across the whole of the sort.
But of course the 5k limit to shuffle still exists - perhaps to limit processing resources?
The shuffle issue is fixed. The Queue limit is 5000 tracks and has nothing to do with shuffle. Try and fill up the Queue with tracks in order and you should hit the same 5000 tracks limit. Very misleading title for that feature request IMO.
I heard an employer say they get so many CV’s that 50% go in the bin… Unlucky for them was a reply… Who wants to employ unlucky people? Was the repost!
Ok, they were jesting, but there is no point having more than 5000 in a queue unless you are immortal and do nothing else than listen to music, as long as these are drawn at random from the greater pool…
I’ve never gotten even to the 1000th song in the queue. I will come across a song that makes me want to play the entire album, or find a similar artist, triggers a memory of a song I just have to hear, etc., etc., etc. As long as the selection is truly random, why do we even need a queue???
That’s not really the point. If you have a Tag with 12000 songs and you want to shuffle them, are you limited to only listening to the same 5000 songs each time, so you never hear the other 7000?
If shuffle does the shuffle “first” and then only loads the first 5000 in, then it should be a different selection every time. But if it loads the same 5000 then only shuffles those, that is a HUGE problem for those of us who rely on Tags to load the queue.
That is, indeed, how it works. 5000 selected randomly on each Shuffle.
Hello, I would like to purchase the Roon lifetime license for ease of use of HQP.
But for this I would like to have the possibility of being able to play my entire library in random mode, that is to say approximately 50,000 titles and not just 5000 titles, that is to say only 10% of my collection.
This means that 90% of my collection is removed from random mode and I am certain that I will not be able to hear them.
I do not understand why you cannot solve this problem.
We are still talking about an application at 830 Euro.
I cross my fingers to be heard and thank you in advance.
Kind regards
Please read this thread and you will find the answer. 5000 tracks are selected each time you shuffle. None of your library is removed or ignored.
Please read what I wrote and you will see that I have read all the messages. However, I am not at all satisfied with not having my entire library in random order. I cannot understand why this is so difficult to understand. I do not want part of my library in random order, but all of it! The question is: Is this feasible or not?
Feasible? I don’t think that is answerable without knowing why the limit was set. All we can tell you is HOW it currently works. I suspect performance and stability. An implementation would have to work for a library of 50k as well as a library of 500k, otherwise, any implementation would just be a moving of the goalposts and not a real “all” of a library.
Feedback Suggestions have no guarantee that the suggestion will ever be implements. I would say base your decision on current capabilities not potentialities.
The reality is that this is highly unlikely to happen. One vote on a 4 year old feature suggestion suggests that it isn’t a priority need for Roon users.
Well Daniel, I want to thank you for your explanation even if of course I am a little disappointed.
I also thank you SukieInTheGraveyard.
I still hope to see Roon remedy this shortcoming and I am convinced that many other people want a complete random mode for their library.
Anyway, this is the only complaint I have to make about this application as a remote control with HQP.
It is all the more frustrating for me because we are touching perfection in the presentation of the library control.
Of course, I do not systematically listen to my music in random but I still do it very regularly.
I hope that we will eventually have good news so that I can relieve myself of 829 Euro.
I thank you again for your informations.
Eric