I’ve noticed since the latest Roon update the persistent issue of no sound when switching from 24/96 to 16/44 when playing radio or shuffle mode. I’m upsampling to dsd128 and what is different now from before is before it use to just stop and wouldn’t go to the next track, now what happens is after playing a 24/96 track upsampling to dsd128 when it goes to the next track my dac just reads 352.8 and no sound come out but the timeline in Roon and HQP are still going and I have to stop playback in HQP and go back, hit play in Roon for it to work again (hitting the link icon does not work anymore). I’m running on a MacMini (late 2012, i5 16gb, SSD and 6tb WD MyBook with my music library)
Very similar experience and system setup here too. I see this happen also pretty much all source formats and rates. I couldn’t find a pattern though, sometimes I’d get through a whole session with no occurance and then next listen it would happen immediately and a few more times thoughout the next session of listening. Seemingly random I guess.
Same hardware and OS X as you expect for external storage. I run a Drobo connected by FireWire to store music. Latest software version on all 6(!) devices running some flavour of Roon.
HQPlayer feeds out DSD128 to a Teac UD-501, which sounds amazing.
Good to see at least that I’m not alone… Same here as it’s happening with all format and seems very random. I just gave 24/96 as an example, but happens any time there is a sample rate change. But I’ve noticed it mostly happens when going from playing a 24bit song to a 16bit song (but has happened the other way too).
I should also mention that in HQP it correctly reads it is upsampling the song to DSD128 as it should, but the DAC display stays locked to 352.8 and doesn’t move to DSD128 as it should normally. @mike, @brian, @jussi_laako.
EDIT: I take it back as to it only happening when a sample rate change occurs as it just happened playing a 16/44.1 flac to another 16/44.1 flac in radio mode. If I hit stop in Roon and hit the backward button and hit play the track from the beginning it will start instantly and the dac display DSD128.
The last time we made any changes to our HQPlayer integration was well before 1.2–the last significant changes were in January when we were debugging the original problems with Jussi.
I don’t doubt that something is going wrong here–but I’m not sure Roon is the place I would look look, especially with those symptoms–which sound like a communication issue between HQPlayer and the DAC.
Reasoning:
- If the timeline in Roon + HQP are moving correctly then data is flowing from Roon to HQP.
- Since you’re doing DSD128 upsampling on a mac, HQPlayer should be outputting a DoP encoded stream to the DAC
- Your DAC is displaying 352.8k instead of DSD128–meaning it’s set to the correct PCM sample rate for processing a DoP encoded DSD128 stream, but is not seeing the marker bits that identify DoP encapsulation.
- When used with HQPlayer, Roon is not involved in generating DoP marker bits–HQPlayer does that part.
Have you guys updated HQPlayer at all in the past few months? Anything changed with DAC/drivers? Do power cycles of the DAC or computer modulate the problem?
That for the response @brian. The only recent change I made was switching back from RoonServer to Roon (I missed the great interface on my tv sometimes). I’m using the latest official HQP 13.3 and last night tried the most recent beta 14.5 and it seemed to make things worse and happen more often.
You can run Roon and Roon Server on the same machine–with Roon running as a remote to the server, too.
Interesting, I didn’t know that. I’ll try that.
Same results with RoonServer back installed. I’m not going to worry about it too much, but this only started a few weeks ago… In the meantime I’ve changed HQP set to auto and I actually may prefer PCM (poly-sinc-short-mp/NS5/384) with my dac, but I keep going back and forth… DSD seems to lose some punch and detail over PCM, but it does have a nice overall tone to it.