Sound quality of Roon versus JRIVER


(pat bannan) #4

The endpoint is a Meitner MA1 DAC via ads/EBU.


(pat bannan) #5

Yes I am using exclusive audio.


(Daniel Beyer) #6

If Roon is setup correctly, then, which sounds better can only be answered by you.


(pat bannan) #7

So what does "set up correctly "entail? There is no doubt which one sounds better, I’m just trying to figure out if I have done something wrong.


(Daniel Beyer) #8

Well, the first step as suggested was verifying that you are getting a bit perfect audio stream, you can tell if the light is purple.

If you are comparing it to another software, then you need to make sure that you have replicated any upsampling, filters or convolutions that may exist in one software in the other so the comparisons are apples to apples.


(pat bannan) #9

You are referring to the purple light next to the artist and song title? And yes, I played CD’s ripped on JRiver back to the same CD’s on Roon


(Oliver Butcher) #10

You are not alone in your findings:
DAR review


#12

JPlay, in the DAR review, and the OP’s JRiver are two different pieces of software.


(Daniel Beyer) #13

Not what I meant. In JRiver you can enable upsampling, various audio filters, and convolution settings. You need to replicate those settings, if any, in Roon to have a true comparison.


(pat bannan) #14

I think you are trying to help me so here is the deal. I signed up for Roon because of all the neat places you can go on it but if inferior sound is the trade off then it will not work for me. I have a small fortune invested in pursuit of the absolute sound that engages me so how do I get the best possible sound out of Roon? KIS.


(Tony) #15

According to the ‘review’ you can use Roon with Jplay as the endpoint/USB driver. It mentions ‘having your cake and eating it’ or something similar. So why not try that instead of Jriver?


#16

Or Roon/HQPlayer.


(pat bannan) #17

Plan to try it Friday, got any advice?


#18

I hear good things about it, but have never used it. I have multiple endpoints, so it’s a little above my pay grade. Do a search on this forum, you’ll find plenty of input.

BTW - I am in awe of your setup. What speakers do you have?


#19

My suggestion is perform a blind test, so you dont know which application is playing and see if you can reliably tell the difference.


(pat bannan) #20

Rockport Atrias. Thanks for the heads up.


(BryanA) #21

@Slim_Fishguttz- How did you know Pat’s Setup? All he shared here is his DAC (and then his Rockports after your post)?

@pat_bannan - now I’m interested in your setup. Mind sharing what your vision of the absolute sound is? BTW, you might also try using the DSP Engine in Roon and enable Sample Rate Conversion to the highest your Meitner MA1 will do. I know that MDAT will automatically do 2xDSD, but I’ve got personal experience that if you can offload the work of upsampling from your DAC, your sound quality will improve – at least it does with my DCS Debussy and upsampling everything (except 24/192) to DSD. For some reason 24/192 to DSD does not have an improvement and actually sounds worse when upsampled in Roon. At least to my ears. My system: Boulder 2000 series amp, preamp, Wilson Alexias, DCS Debussy.


#22

!st post :sunglasses:


(BryanA) #23

@Slim_Fishguttz: So you’re envious of his Baetis server? Not trashing pat’s media server…I have the same case, but it’s a “C.A.P.S. PIPELINE” – it’s just a PC in a Streacom FC10 case that’s basically optimized for music. The PIPELINE is a DIY project that is laid out on computer audiophile in detail – step by step.Just see https://www.computeraudiophile.com/index.php?app=cms&module=pages&controller=page&path=ca/ca-academy/computer-audiophile-pocket-server-c-a-p-s-v4-pipeline.

I was thinking there was more to pat’s system that was posted. Clearly we have a couple of great pieces, the Meitner DAC, the Baetis server and Rockport Atrias – but only the Baetis was posted in pat’s first post. Still scratching my head here.


#24

Sorry, don’t get your confusion. I’m impressed by his commitment to his hobby and the choices he made. Not being snarky, but I’m missing your point.