Spotify announce lossless streaming

How it have nothing to do with Qobuz when the early albums are missing from Qobuz? I’m seeing this on several artist where Qobuz is missing them and Spotify has them. Tidal is much better but then I don’t want to deal with MQA. So choice to have large library would mean using Spotify app directly with Spotify connect.

And Qobuz has more music than I could ever listen to but it’s the music discover part when seeing something missing that bothers me. It was like going to record store and album you want was missing. Sure you’d find something else but still upset didn’t have what you were looking for.

The first sync between services you setup with Soundiz is free. You only need to pay if you do more than 1.

But dont all apple devices play 16/44 in a 16/48 making it not lossless?

Maybe it’s a regional thing, but all of the Mudhoney records are on Qobuz where I’m at (US). I don’t currently have a streaming sub to Q, but it says they are available for streaming, and they were when I did have one. So, yes, it’s a Roon thing, esp as I’m now with Tidal and the early albums are available there but not in the Roon ITP. It could be a regional thing why you’re not seeing them, but no guarantee that Spotify lossless will be available where you are either.

it seems you did not get my point, Spotify Connect does NOT have audio normalization, so when playing a playlist or radio with Spotify Connect every track has different volume. Spotify has only audio normalization when played directly from the device, over Airplay or Bluetooth or something like this.

Yeah, it was cheap enough as it was. I couldn’t bear to do a freebie.

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Ok got it Looks like I could be playing alot of albums

Fair play to you…:slight_smile:

Not a solution in any way but I’ve been using plexamp to access my Tidal songs over CarPlay as a workaround. It is far from perfect but works almost all the time when you set the music source as Tidal (unfortunately it does not combine local files and tidal library like Roon).

Gave up on the official app on my car long ago due to the problems you described. At my home we only use Roon to access Tidal so for me Tidal apps are almost not needed (until Roon enables us to edit Tidal playlists natively).

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Interesting observation about music vs. audio in Spotify’s propaganda.

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Lumin Spotify Connect implementation works with our own multi-room feature via Lumin app, although it is not precisely synchronized.

Decided to give Spotify premium family plan an early test drive just to see if it’s going to work. First, my son loves the kids app, so now probably stuck keeping the plan while I wait for lossless to arrive.

I was able to easily setup Spotify Connect on my Stack Audio Link II. Spotify asks if that’s what you want to use. Will also find other devices with Spotify open. I chose a bunch of artists I liked and as I chose them it add more that it thought I’d like and it was pretty accurate. Then it made playlists based of those choices and looked great. Loved that can control player from Lock Screen.

So for some reason my dac shows output as 44.1k but I’d have to believe there is some upsampling going on with Spotify Connect thru RopieeeXL player, which Link II uses. The sound isn’t half bad but when I switch to same song in roon with just cd quality, I can hear more weight, depth, and sub bass. So I’ll most likely be sticking with roon until lossless comes out. And if sound quality isn’t on par then, I’ll stick with roon and Qobuz.

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I tried Qobuz. but i think their ios and desktop mac app are awful. Their integration with devices is very suspect as well with limited search and organization.

Spotify is by far the best music app i have ever used but I don’t subscribe because of the audio quality.

When it comes out I will be using it without question.

Spotify will show 44.1 on dacs but it is not cd quality yet.

Good to know about the output rate.

They haven’t released any more info on their hi-if plan yet. I assume nothing with change with interface and will just switch to lossless when new hifi tier becomes available. Some people think it will be included with the premium account and others think at additional cost. Not too worried about the price in the end.

I’m also using Soundliz to transfer my Qobuz albums over. Even though Tidal is not active, believe I can transfer those as well since many albums were never on Qobuz.

Just noticed live scrolling lyrics on the iPad. I knew they were testing in the US but didn’t know it was already being rolled out. So now won’t miss that feature in roon. Also has on iPhone as well.

my worry is users will flee Roon because now they can get lossless on Spotify. Spotify won’t ever integrate with Roon.

I like Roon for the way I can interact with my music. I also like underdogs, such as Qobuz. I hate MQA, so that means I like Tidal less.

The sands are every shifting in the world of digital music.

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I’m a lifetime member of roon but always willing to see what’s out there.

Like the idea that you can create shared playlists with others. They are also beta testing group listening where you and others can all remotely be listening to same thing and have control. Not sure if use it but seems like a good idea especially with social distancing.

The search for the GUT…

What’s the mean?

Yes, I have about 5 friends, different age groups, that contribute to a shared Spotify playlist. It makes for a very interesting source of hearing new things. And these “trusted, musical friends” are better than any AI algorithm (yet).

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