Encryption helps the layman believe that his data is safe in the cloud. This is common knowledge with a high level of acceptance. IT professionals and intelligence agencies are happy about this naive belief.
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The cloud and data providers like to sell multiple times even if you only hold data once and look where Tidal or Qobuz have your data.
Even Roon has cloud service providers and many data providers that sell Roon again what you have already charged Qobuz or Tidal. There is always a struggle for space and price.
Roon, Qobuz or Spotify we can assume serious intentions in the music market.
Tidal is really just a training ground for new payment systems or proprietary formats. If you start it smart and the competition is asleep, it will convince artists more than the competitive models. It will only become an advantage when customers also get involved.
We are familiar with the âfine calculationâ in all services. When Apple talks about subscriptions in the last quarter, you wonât break down how many of them go 3, 6, 9, 12 or 18 months without revenue because free offers were stacked.
On Google, you could upload 100,000 songs for free and even if you had very poor quality, in most cases 320 kbps came back from the cloud.
Itâs unfortunate in the mass market that lossless doesnât have a big market yet. Billions of people are happy with âquasi lossless mobile listeningâ. Of course, it is technically provable that 320 kbps is not lossless for either MP3, OGG, Opus, AAC⊠is lossless, but many just donât hear these differences anymore the way the vast majority of the community does here.
âŠGoogle like Spotify still takes this into account and if it changes, the offer is in the cloud. Probably with new technology, which will then really be considered revolutionary. Apple and Amazon are also riding this wave, without everything being convincing. Demo material is always available.
I understand what you are saying but donât agree. Just because you use Google, Amazon, or Microsoft Azure for hosting does not mean that the host has access to your algorithms. Spotify may use the Google AI engine, but it would be spotifyâs knowledge and engineering that configures it.
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Have they publicly backtracked? Or just missing their deadline? I have not seen them retract the announcement, but certainly are dragging their feet.
After all, it would be bad if we all always thought the same or only agreed with each other.
The discussion lives from different experiences, opinions, hopes or fears and only the future itself will show how it comes. I thank you for every contrary view that enables me to move forward intellectually.
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Same, thank you!
Where Spotify HD ? This company is a joke. They tested Spotify lossless 6 years ago with select customers and now they claim its coming out this year.
Iâll bet the farm it doesnât happen this year. Probably never. They are interested in Podcasts and working direct deals with artists.
Iâm very happy with Apple Music and deleted the Spotify App even though im not happy with Airplay and
no Audio Midi Auto sampling frequency switching.
Will Apple come up with a Spotify Connect feature. I would bank on it.
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Iâd like to believe this, but unfortunately I donât. The big tech companies donât give a toss whatâs on their servers, in fact it is in their interests not to know. If they know they can potentially be held responsible. If they donât they can say âwe arenât publishers, we are just a platformâ. Look at the state of Facebook, itâs abhorrent.
So what is the latest official message about Spotify HD release? Or does anybody know more on this?
Itâs interesting how polyphonic we are here.
Apple started selling iPhones in 2007. The number of iPhones sold quickly exploded, reaching over 125 million by 2012. Three years later, it was already more than 230 million iPhones and this year there is the next sales record.
About every 4 years now we have another billion of iPhones sold. At the same time, the old customer base of ITunes has imploded, almost wiped out, with less than 10% remaining as loyal Apple Music listeners.
Almost every iPhone user has a different music service and doesnât want the pre-installed one, but there are still a few here who want Rome integration. 95% rely on Qobuz and Tidal and have long since transferred their library with TuneMyMusic, Soundiiz & Co.
This is also the approach of former Spotify users who have really lost their heart to Hi-Res, because only Roon convinces in this category (without remaining flawless).
Spotify observes the market like no other, conducts data analyses, and comes to the conclusion that it was worthwhile to send Amazon and Apple off first. They are now struggling with technical disappointments, missing catalogs, higher costs, less customer satisfactionâŠ
But it was also more important to sell new devices there, because there is no pot to win with these services.
Of course, no one wants to take responsibility for the data of others. It wonât be any different with Twitter, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, Amazon, and Apple, but they all want to constantly eavesdrop, peek, listen, data in the cloud, just know and hear everything. Every business detail and much more seems important. Thatâs what intelligence agencies and global companies need to keep competitors small and the customer base large.
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Letâs see, nothing yet, Iâm not holding my breath, but Iâll give them the benefit of doubt until 1st Jan, then that is it.
If Spotify do deliver on this I think I will probably end my Roon and Qobuz subs.
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Given how long it took them to implement lyrics I donât know why people are waiting with baited breath.
Spotify rolls things out when they feel like it. Given Apple has prevented them from charging for the update, I doubt they want to roll it out now.
They are likely still evaluating the options, busines model wise. Massively increasing the streaming bandwidth for no additional revenue is difficult to justify.
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A handful of people formulating wishes in a small hi-res community certainly do not represent the needs of billions of people who have never consumed online without loss.
Yes, it will still be possible to take customers in the per mille range into this fantastic world, but why should everyone suddenly want it? Apple and Amazon have miscalculated and there are countless such articles on the net:
Why nobody needs Apple Music with HiFi
The Apple management is going in the same direction with their statements that very few notice the difference, but wanted to overtake Spotify without technology, catalog and market.
Christmas should many new devices under the Christmas tree and then it will be much quieter and disillusionment occurs.
If Spotify does end up going lossless itâs really hard to see a reason for Tidal, Qobuz, etc. to existâŠ
I do have a Roon lifetime and an annual Qobuz sub. And a family Spotify sub.
But a Spotify lossless service could sure make things simple. For a lot of people.
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were now in middle of December though,spotify is taking this to the last minute
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My guess is Spotify is going to pass on lossless now. They wanted to charge more money but got burned by Apple when they came out with lossless with no price increase.
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