Am I doing something wrong, or is Roon still laggy with simple things like loading Playlists? With both Tidal Connect and Spotify Connect, I get all the multi-device capabilities I need. I don’t need the functionality to be playing different music on different devices at the same time. So that bit of Roon is useless to me. As for local files, Spotify also allows me to play all my Flac files, and it’s pretty easy to use in the same app instead of another “Arc” type file.
I’ve given Roon many tries, and keep unsubscribing every time. Loading a simple Tidal Playlist (about 6,000 songs in it right now) takes over 25 seconds. This is horrendous.
Roon let’s you do lots of other stuff beyond playing to different zones and using local files. Some people want/need them and some don’t. If you don’t, then you don’t miss anything.
I know nothing and don’t care about playlists that cover the next 3 months, so I don’t know about loading times, though.
IME, 10 to 20 seconds is not unusual to load a large playlist depending on what you’re running it on. I just tested it on an 8K playlist and it took about three seconds. That’s typical with my system and my equipment.
It is very configuration/database dependent. I have been trying to expunge the 6-60 second delay each time I switch tracks, open a new album, etc. for a couple of years now but haven’t found the secret sauce. No matter how much money I have thrown at my Nucleus and network, it is an exercise in whack-a-mole. It doesn’t sound super common but it is common enough to have MANY support tickets in on similar issues, so I may never find a solution. I have given up and just deal with it. A laggy UI is just Roon for me. It is what it is.
It may help to define your system , what network topology (ethernet or wi fi) , RAM, processor . What is your server running on for example. Timing from an external source like Tidal may be impacted by any of these things.
Without being rude , moaning won’t help the members of this community to help you with your issues, providing a clear description of set up and what the issues is will.
With all due respect, but that should not be it. There must be a solution.
I had some cases with sluggishness and delays in the past, and usually there was a reason for that. I experienced several cases with some particular albums causing roon to slow down noticeably whenever they are in the enabled library or part of a playlist or queue. Did not quite identify a pattern which is generally applicable, but some samplers, boxsets, unidentified albums with lots of tags and references, some DSD albums and alike, they seemingly put roon under stress. Cutting them into albums, transcoding them, cleaning up file tags and re-identifiying or simply keep some folders disabled helped repeatedly.
Oh I believe you. It may very well be one or a combination of two, three, or more of those things. The trouble is, I don’t enjoy spending the majority of my weekends working on computer databases trying to get Roon to work zippy and lag free. I feel I spend enough time fighting with Roon as it is and spend enough time during my work week trying to fight through puzzles related to database and software errors. I do try and work unidentifiable albums, remove outdated files, and pick at cleaning up my library, but I have stopped turning entire weekends into Roon projects like I had done in the past years.
A hobby is defined as something one likes to do in their spare time. Listening to music and collecting/curating a physical and digital library is my main hobby, but I am finding that trying to spend hours and days trying to get Roon to not be laggy is not part of that hobby.
I absolutely agree, but unfortunately I need a reactive roon to really enjoy browsing my library and listening to the music.
As I feel myself in a similar situation like you having invested a considerable amount of time into perfectioning the library, at a certain point in time I decided that it is not worth doing the same for every album I own. So the majority of my files have been migrated to folders which are usually disabled in roon. Including those albums slowing roon down, being not identifiable or causing browsing issues.
Funnily, with some simple rules what to send to exile, performance of roon is almost perfect and I do not waste a single thought on grooming that ´back catalogue´ of my library. Maybe this is not a solution for everyone but wanted to recommend it as on option how not to spend weekend over weekend but just enjoying the ´perfect part´ of your library which is around 70k tracks in my case.
This is not a bad idea , I keep a USB drive attached and disabled with a load of duplicates and “will never get around to” tracks . That keeps the “main” Library much smaller and Roon’s reaction snappier.
The disabled drive has been analyzed before being disabled so if you ant something just Enable it. I also have a legacy system in JRiver so anything “odd” i just listen there instead.
The other “secret tip” is to restart the server software daily or every other day , that speeds things up.
That’s also one thing which I would recommend to do if possible. If you happen to run roon on a NAS with OS meant for professional servers (such as QTS for Qnap) you can easily set up energy schedules including automated daily/weekly routines.
I am in Johannesburg and we suffer from horrendous lightening storms in summer so my system is unplugged every night and often mid afternoon as well.
In winter we get no rain at all and I leave my computers on 24/7 I soon notice Roon slowing down usually a couple of days . Its a nuc/ROCK so I just use the Web Admin page to restart the serve software then brew coffee …
I am on a Macbook Pro 16 inch with 32GB RAM and an M2 chip. So, thanks, but 3 seconds with 8k is absolutely not the truth unless your playlist is entirely static and hasn’t changed at all in months. Mine gets a song or two added every week. In Tidal.
Not only does the playlist take many seconds to load, if I find a song with a scroll of the playlist and Play Now, it takes many seconds.
My largest playlist is 4,340 songs and loads in less than a second on my iPad. All local tracks however. I think Roon has a lot more work to do each time it loads a play from a streaming service. It has to check if any of the remote metadata has changed for each song, whether the song is still available, etc.
NearlyNormal, I suspect english is not your first language so I’m going to politely point out that saying my claimed 3 seconds is not the truth is the same as calling me a liar. I assure you, I tested the load times more than once. And I add three or four albums a week to that playlist so it is not static. Other posters have agreed that your experience is not typical. Instead of blaming the UI, maybe post in Support and see if your system/configuration can be improved to make your experience more pleasant.