Still can't understand how metadata works

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Maybe it’s just me or maybe it’s not THAT important, but since we have the option to “identify an album” we should be able to get the version we have, right?

Well, I’m a little obsessive with these things so I get focused on this and I try to understand and contribute with the community to “get the right version”, but it’s beyond my comprehention how things work with information on Roon.

For example I have an argentinean version of Alma - Almah (2006, NEMS Enterprises), and it didn’t show on the “Identify” section, so I added it to Musicbrainz (https://musicbrainz.org/release/4bf723f3-991e-49f7-b9f2-ecd1c8cc1704) as complete as I could (CD id and scans included) because I read that one of the sources was that site.
I also know it takes some time to fetch the data.

I added it in 2020…still 2 AFM and 1 JVC options but no sight of the one I uploaded.
On the other hand I’ve added other releases to Musicbrainz that were updated.
Why is that? How does the system select?

I’m willing to upload to Musicbrainz my 2000+ CD collection but I don’t want to do it if nothing’s going to change (already have my collection on Discogs and it took a while…)

Again, maybe this only bothers me, but I’d love to understand how it works :man_shrugging:

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After creating a release / release group in MusicBrainz, did you follow this up by running your local album through MusicBrainz Picard to grab the MusicBrainz tracks and release IDs?

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Hi @mjw
No I didn’t, but I didn’t do it for other albums and they show up when identifying them.

Thanks for the suggestion I’ll try that and see if it works :+1:

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Please note that MusicBrainz will overwrite existing tags, and remove any additional tags you may have. It may also rename the files. So, check the options before proceeding, and make a backup copy of the album first.

You can tell MusicBrainz to only add the IDs using this script (Options → Scripting):

$unset(album)
$unset(albumartist)
$unset(albumartistsort)
$unset(albumsort)
$unset(arranger)
$unset(artist)
$unset(artistsort)
$unset(artists)
$unset(bpm)
$unset(comment:*)
$unset(compilation)
$unset(composer)
$unset(composersort)
$unset(conductor)
$unset(copyright)
$unset(originaldate)
$unset(originalyear)
$unset(date)
$unset(discnumber)
$unset(director)
$unset(totaldiscs)
$unset(encodedby)
$unset(encodersettings)
$unset(engineer)
$unset(genre)
$unset(grouping)
$unset(key)
$unset(isrc)
$unset(label)
$unset(language)
$unset(lyricist)
$unset(lyrics:*)
$unset(media)
$unset(mixer)
$unset(djmixer)
$unset(remixer)
$unset(mood)
$unset(originalalbum)
$unset(originalartist)
$unset(performer:*)
$unset(podcast)
$unset(podcasturl)
$unset(producer)
$unset(discsubtitle)
$unset(subtitle)
$unset(title)
$unset(titlesort)
$unset(tracknumber)
$unset(totaltracks)
$unset(work)
$unset(website)
$unset(license)
$unset(acoustid_id)
$unset(acoustid_fingerprint)
$unset(asin)
$unset(barcode)
$unset(catalognumber)
$unset(discid)
$unset(gapless)
$unset(musicip_puid)
$unset(musicip_fingerprint)
$unset(releasecountry)
$unset(releasestatus)
$unset(releasetype)
$unset(script)
$unset(show)
$unset(showsort)
$unset(writer)

Also check Options → Tags and Options → File Naming to preserve any tags / file names etc.

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Wow, thanks!!

I used Mp3tag to add a field with the Musicbrainz album ID property, is this the same or do I have to go through Piccard?

I mean I don’t mind going album by album pasting the MBID in order to keep control of all my tags which I specifically added patiently through time

Again thanks for the script

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MP3tag should work, as ling as it uses Vorbis (FLAC) tags and not ID3V2.

However, MusicBrainz Picard can automate this, and will process many albums in one go. Indeed, if the IDs are there, this will be evident very quicky, as these are probably the ones you’re having problems with in Roon.