Summary of issues with 1.8

A huge, annoying issue with the search mechanism (already present in 1.7 but not resolved yet…)

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It is very difficult to scroll through all artists in my library with 1.8, indeed. There seems to be no option to allow for more images (artists, albums, etc.) to be displayed on a single screen anymore either. Also, the use of circles is controversial and somewhat disliked by quite a few.

Some more comments on the original post…

The workaround with negative focus criteria to get “OR” is not practical when you have to apply many negative conditions, as the whole screen (on my 10 inch tablet anyway) gets covered by the conditions… so you basically do not see anything else on the screen. (And Roon does not let me hide them.)

The text size and selected fonts are indeed controversial but it is possible to mitigate by adjusting display and text size of your device.

Bring back the :star: ratings at least like it was with 1.7, please!

Bring back the “Recommended for you!”

The dark theme is somewhat uninvolving and its text difficult to read compared to 1.7, especially on “busier screens”. The white theme is better but too bright which is also not ideal. Both themes should allow for some custom selection of contrasting colours, rather than forcing the blue/purple/red on us.


Regardless of the above, I am enjoying the advertised improvements in Valence and related connections/exploration features a lot. Just please Roon do not dismiss the issues outlined in the original post, as they are valid topics for deeper investigations!

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Apparently there are multiple hardware or setup specific issues as well. Some say the UI is snappy, on my 5950x + RTX3080 it looks like if it was running on an XT, has multiple video and configuration issues as well.

Some people (like me) have a problem with the changed tag filter which now is not able to combine tags (filter for two tags in a single search - a logical “OR”), also the vertical scrolling and the small number of albums per screen (also using unnecessary space previously shown on the graphics and not under it) makes previously managable libraries, filters, playlists just minutes of scrolling instead of a few pages of structured screens. The large amount of constantly moving data just causes headaches cannot concentrate on the real reason: finding an album to play in a set of filtered albums.

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Just wanted to say “thank you” to @Duckworp (the original poster) for this list. It’s a great summary, and saved me the time of reading the 1000+ message thread before deciding whether to upgrade to 1.8 or wait for 1.8.1.

Plus, it’s well written and clear. Probably helpful for the Roon team too. :slight_smile:

Much appreciated!

Vog

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One more issue: Increased difference in height of artist images displayed in artist screen compared to Now playing screen. Many more artist heads get cut off with 1.8! :astonished:

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  • Unnecessary line breaks in album titles (apparently a design choice):
    Unnecessary breaks / spacing in album titles in Roon 1.8

  • Settings menu in the desktop app only shows the first tab

  • And yes, poor cropping for banner pictures on artists pages has returned

  • It’s no longer possible to hide the sections for popular tracks and concerts

  • The option to show track numbers has been removed from the iPhone app

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A post was merged into an existing topic: Roon 1.8 - where can I see tags & playlists for a track?

Hi there - I’ve not had any stability issues with the Roon 1.8 apps on my iPad Pro and iPhone, and even on my MBP.

However, I’ve had a few examples of albums not playing (message “tracks not available on Qobuz”), which is odd, as if I open the Qobuz app those very same albums are there and I can play them.

How can this be?

One example is the below

Cannonball Adderly - Something Else (24/192)

Very much on Qobuz, plays in the Qobuz app, not within Roon.

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  • Language other than English as primary on device causes crashes in iOS devices when accessing “settings”
  • Language other than English as primary ALSO causes not being able to access settings in Mac OS X devices
  • Repeated crashes of Roon Core on Mac Mini (every +/- hour or so). Requires restarting of app, which in my case with +/-150k songs takes a looooot of time
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A reasonable summary, my comments on some of your points

Point 4. the individual movements are listed for each work - they have not disappeared, they are no longer indented. They were not always separately listed in Roon 1.7.

Point 5. I am happy for star ratings to go

Point 6. look and feel is a matter of taste - I am happy with the new look and feel

Point 9. It could be that with new, much improved search facilities, our former need to scroll through a whole box set to locate an individual work is.no longer needed

Point 10. I have read some of the comments on font size - I am not sure that they are necessarily from older people with poor eyesight. My eyesight is not great but the text is large enough and overall is much easier on the eye.

Point 12. These are now down the bottom

I cannot understand the absolute hostility of some commenters. Yes - some of the ways I used to use Roon are no longer there or are not as easy but on the other hand there have been massive improvements which might mean that my overall experience is much enhanced as these new ways are in fact better than my old habits. We need to give it a few days, and go along for the ride, before we pass final judgment. (Perhaps a good analogy might be going from a manual car to an automatic - I am sure some of us reached for that gear stick, to be slightly bothered that it had gone. Of course there are still some people who will insist that manual transmission is the only way)

I have to say many of the issues that seem to have caused great angst for some commenters appear to be very much of the “first world” variety!

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So I fixed the above problem - deleted the album from my library, added it back, and suddenly Roon can play it.

I’ll try this with any other Qobuz albums that Roon says are unavailable (but obviously are), and report back if this (deleting / re-adding) does continue to fix the problem.

Mind you, this problem should not exist.

Nice summary.

One complaint I’m reading a lot and agree with: Discover has been buried. Bring it back to the left menu. Or at least bring it up high on the home page.

Another is circles for artists. Some like this, but it is cropping the photos, sometime inconveniently.

Related is credits. IMO, using these circles for credits makes them almost unusable. The former text list worked. Now you have to search over this spread out array. And we seem to have lost the ability to sort the credit list.

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The number of tracks in a given view, focus, etc has disappeared. I’d found this a useful metric in 1.7.

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Works for me well with Roon Remote on Mac OS Catalina.

Again, works for me well.

35 GB on the server or on a Remote?

I can report that the memory leak which affected a bunch of users running Roon server on Linux has apparently been resolved or at least mitigated. Today I have been using Roon quite heavily during 6+ hours, and the reported memory usage of Roon server has been stable.

I agree. This should be indented again. It’s just easier to grasp.

No problems for me with IOS with Synology running Roon on independent 1TB plus 20TB with 25,000+ albums, definite improvement in sound, connectivity excellent…ok, maybe some format issues but overall a fine upgrade…using Lumin A1 on my main system and also B&W Wireless Formation on secondary

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Issues on joined zones. I’ve got spots from the speakers never heard before in 1.7

Spots? Like clicks, pops and/or dropouts?

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Merge of two albums doesn’t work.
In a bit of trying I’ve had problems with “identify album” as well…

Actually, merge didn’t work yesterday but is working today. Very odd, but I’ll take it!

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