Temporary core on laptop for long vacation

We will be on vacation and I’d like to take Roon with me. Rather than mess around with authorizing and deauthorizing, I thought I could instead add a temporary subscription for 2 months and run it on my laptop (i7, 12 Gb RAM, SSD), which has plenty of free SSD space and also an attached USB 3 drive with all my music files. I can then stream to a NAD C 368 (w/ BluOS module) at the vacation place.

Does all that make sense? Am I overlooking anything?

Oh – and if the house-sitter accesses my Qobuz subscription at home, will I run into trouble using it on the road?

Thanks for any help with this!

Will anyone actually be using your Core at home while you are away?

should be doable just tagging @accounts to be sure.

qobuz you might have to google around to find out…tidal I know stops the streams all the time when 2 are using on the same account (family is ok if you have it iirc) same with Spotify - not that its a consideration for you here.

the new core will need to be a complete new database import tho, based on the USB Drive music etc and while you could restore a backup its going to be messy as your devices will all be different.

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Yes, someone may be using the Core at home while we are away. Our house sitter is a musician and seems interested in learning to use the stereo.

If you don’t have a family account just one stream at a time is allowed, unfortunately.

Mike when you log into the new core, the old one stops working. Only one core can be active at a time, until you log back into the original Core and activate it again

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…“problem” solved…

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Hey @Mike-48,

Great question! Thanks for getting in touch :nerd_face:

I’ll take a moment to make a comment about the Roon subscription. You absolutely can have a second temporary subscription.

We can help start a second subscription on your account that you can manage as you would your first subscription: you can choose the billing plan (monthly, yearly, lifetime) and based on your subscription type, you can cancel it when you no longer need it.

Since the subscription would be under the same account, you can restore a backup from your main home Core, so you won’t have to start with a blank canvas.

Please, just let me know if you’d like this started. Cheers :blush:

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Thanks, Rebeka. I’m thinking ahead, as the need is not immediate. I’ll start the temporary subscription in January for our vacation in February. Best way to do that is contact you through this forum? Or another way?

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Emailing contact@roonlabs.com would be the fastest way to get your second subscription :nerd_face:

Jim, Thanks. A couple of questions (1) I’m not sure what the relevance is to a NC headset. I have a Sony but expect to use speakers, and (2) How does your setup handle music on your your own music files? Do you have a separate copy of them on the laptop? Or do you use streaming services only? Or something else?

I only have an individual account, and have two different streams simultaneously on a daily basis.

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You’ve missed a fine detail of the thread, that there’s a difference between running concurrent streams from one or two separate cores, as the OP plans on doing.

I missed nothing. You stated “If you don’t have a family account just one stream at a time is allowed, unfortunately.” In response to Mike-48’s question “and if the house-sitter accesses my Qobuz subscription at home, will I run into trouble using it on the road?”.

That is blatantly incorrect. You can only have one core without a family account, so in the situation in his question, only one location can have a core running at a time. But that one core can have multiple independent streams simultaneously. I think you knew in your head what could and couldn’t be done, but your answer did not correctly convey that, and ended up wrong, and should have stated that only one core at a time (not one stream) was possible on an individual (not family) account.

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You are absolutely correct and I’d like to apologize for any inconveniences caused.

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Coming at the problem from another direction… I find the best way to enjoy my library when I’m not on my home network (where Roon runs), is to use Plex instead. And specifically, to use the Plex client called Plex Amp. I realize people will pile on and say “but what about [some Roon feature] that you’re missing;” but in reality I’m OK with the trade off. Plex is simple, reliable, and runs on every device imaginable. And you don’t have to do backflips with multiple subscriptions and libraries… just point Plex at the same library you point Roon at, et voila.

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I restore my database backups on my laptop as a vacation core all the time. The re authorization is not a big deal.

I sync my backups to Dropbox which is on my laptop and restore from the local copies

This sounds like the way to go. Say I install Core on my laptop – the laptop has its own music files – and sign into it. I understand that then I’ll be logged out of the ROCK core, my regular one. So next time I sign into the ROCK core, I’ll be logged out of the laptop? Other than logging in, there is nothing else to do each time ? Since the two cores refer to different music files, each core will maintain its own database, and that will persist through logging out and in again?

If that is the situation, it’s quite workable. Do I have it right?

I think that makes sense for you. So you will have two separate databases - i would not want that as playlists and tags and favorites would be out of sync, but if that is okay for you, i think your way should work

Thanks, Rob. I would prefer a single database between installations, but only if there is no risk of screwing things up. The issue with backup-restore is that paths to music files will be different. In the main installation, the files are read from a NAS. In the laptop installation, they are read from an attached USB drive.