That ARC Survey

My hopes are never high for any survey. They’re usually focussed on what “they” want & not on understanding what we want.

In any case, I thought I’d give it a go.

And then I get to this question:

What the hell does any of this have to do with ARC?? Ot at the very least, in what way does any of this address the elephant in the room. It’s like someone’s gone, ooh, let’s give them a big list of things to choose from but for god’s sake don’t mention stability & usability. Don’t mention the fact that any downloads get deleted when you re-install the app.

Look, dear Roon people. You all know exactly what ARC needs. Actual usability. To work the way Plexamp does & to not delete downloads when the app is reinstalled. It’s as simple as that.

Everything else is incidental. We already have Roon for ALL those things. ARC is for when you step outside & want to listen to music FROM YOUR MUSIC LIBRARY AT HOME & the only thing on that list that might be remotely useful would be a seamless transition from what you might’ve been playing in Roon before you left the house. Maybe better car integrations, but I just plug my phone into the car audio, so I don’t really know what that means.

Why would you try & make a second Roon? Just make ARC work. Ask the right questions.

And what the hell is Focus?

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I think a lot of people would like a Roon ARC app for their laptop or desktop computer.

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Yes, maybe it would be handy at the office. I dunno. It’s on my phone. Seems a bit pointless to have two whole apps to configure.

Anyway, the point is they’re avoiding the most obvious topics. I’d say get the sodding thing working & let’s not lose all our downloads twice a week & then maybe we can start worrying about all that extra stuff.

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Do both. I don’t think one precludes the other. Might not even be the same people involved. I think the “fixit” things are understood.

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Yes, and again, my point is that the most important issues, that most definitely should be a part of that list, aren’t.

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Like many others, I have only one wish: Improve SQ from ARC on DAP’s.

Torben

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Ooh look. There’s no mention of sound quality in that list, either.

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Literally every one of those has a somewhat frequently requested Feature Suggestions topic

That’s not a functionality. It is ok to ask „if we build a feature, which one should it be first?“

Tell this to the people who asked for all the other stuff and see what they think about it.

Just one of Roon’s main features

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It’s a fantasy list when the thing doesn’t work in the first place.

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It works just fine for me. Maybe I should decree that it’s pointless to have a library with a million tracks and try to make it work on the road because how many times do you really need that. But that’s the same as you telling other people what they don’t need, so it would be just as pointless and wrong.

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I refer my learned friend to the downloads issue. Because ARC has not worked consistently for me since a month or so after its release, I went over to downloads. But of course, that’s pointless because they all get deleted every time I re-install ARC. Which I basically have to do every time there’s an upgrade.

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Actually Roon ARC works for me, but I just use it to stream Tidal and Qobuz. I never download tracks because I only have 7 local albums that I rarely listen to. Also, when I get in the car and start Roon ARC, I just play whatever is there. I don’t go looking for something in particular very often. The whole point of Apple CarPlay is safety and keep your eyes on the road.

Roon ARC works so well, I implemented another occurrence on my second Roon server.

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Also, the whole point of ARC is to be able to access all my music from wherever, so why would you want to decree that? :rofl:

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It’s interesting that you can successfully stream from wherever you are, Jim. I couldn’t even stream on the train to London from Kent, let alone here in North Wales.

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Verizon Wireless has great southeast US coverage. I rarely go outside this area.

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And clearly this should be fixed. But I think that’s understood and I don’t think it’s necessary to ask in a survey whether they should fix a bug

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It’s clear that ARC works well for some people, even though it falls at every hurdle for the rest of us. (And the list of things that are wrong with it goes way further than the two I’ve mentioned.)

It made me angry, reading questions for something that, for me, is just a piece of useless crap. Like, MAKE IT WORK, then let’s discuss whether I want a drone flying overhead, relaying a lossless audio signal from my own personal satellite, you know?

It sounds like some of you have that already! You lucky lucky people.

(Still no idea about focus, but it’s probably one of those things I have no use for, so I’ve never come across it. :slight_smile: )

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I do get the sentiment but they can’t wait with improvements for everyone until the last bug is fixed for the million-tracks-with-custom-tags-subverting-every-rule crowd, either. Neither should they only build new features at the expense of bug fixing. There has to be some balance and it’s inherently not easy

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They don’t subvert every rule. :eyes:

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That is an infrastructure problem in an underdeveloped country.