The Best NUC for ROCK?

#8

I purchased a NUC7i7BNH and it works well, but I’m getting dropouts when I play 192khz MQA Tidal content along with DSP EQ.

I wish I knew about the NUC7i7DN when I bought mine. The NUC7i7BNH is a bit underpowered for Rock, IMO.

#9

I don’t think there is any reason to use 128MB SSD. I have a 64MB and 1.2 TB of music. I have over 50 GB free on the SSD.

I also don’t think there is any reason for a Linear PSU, but to each there own on that one.

What is the second LAN for?

(Brian) #10

@Katun

Thanks for the recommendation! I will look into the Teddy Pardo power supply. That is my next decision, which linear power supply is best for the ROCK/NUC?

Why/how do you use the USB-Ethernet adaptor? Just curious.

(Sean) #11

@danny has said:

I asked Danny if ‘work’ means officially supported by Roon (since ‘works’ and ‘supported’ don’t always mean the same thing with ROCK) but haven’t gotten a reply.

Hopefully Danny can confirm before you or anyone else purchases a NUC7i7DN*

There is a reasonably affordable fanless case that supports this i7 NUC model, so would make a nice solution.

http://www.akasa.com.tw/update.php?tpl=product/product.detail.tpl&no=181&type=Fanless%20Chassis&type_sub=Fanless%20NUC&model=A-NUC39-A1B

But I would wait for confirmed Roon support, just to have the ‘warm and fuzzy’ feeling inside.

(Сергей Михайлов) #12

First LAN is used for the connection to the wifi router and second LAN - to the roon endpoint by audiophile ethernet cable. Such configuration is the best for SQ.

(Brian Luczkiewicz) #13

Yes, the NUC7i7DN* is supported.

It’s what I’ve been using for my personal system for the past few months, too, and it has been trouble-free.

Intel did a great job–4 cores/8 threads, but also great single-threaded performance (up to 4.2GHz IIRC), and all of that in a 15W TDP for the CPU. Incredible performance/watt.

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(Sean) #14

Nice, cheers Brian !

#15

Not to get off topic, but this really annoys me. I carefully read the Roon Rock knowledge base and the new model is not mentioned nor is there any warning that the old model is not quite powerful enough. I’ve just spent a lot of money on an inadequate solution (MQA 192 does not work properly), all because I needed a wired connection since Roon Wifi support stinks. Now, I’m getting dropouts that I never got with my wireless connect, but the iOs Remote works. Frankly, I’m getting a bit fed up with Roon. Ugh.

(Sean) #16

To be partly fair to the Knowledge Base it lists NUC7i7XXX as supported. So this includes NUC7i7DN*.

In the other thread I linked above, @Katun rightly mentioned the KB was last updated before the 8th Gen NUC7i7DN* came on sale. So I asked Danny for confirmation, but never got a reply.

Nice to have @brian confirm support though.

I’m very very confident that’s not a NUC7i7BNH horse-power related issue. I’m sure if you raise it with @support they’ll look into it and sort it out.

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(Brian Luczkiewicz) #17

Agreed. This doesn’t sound like a NUC performance issue.

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(Brian) #18

Can the Intel NUC7i7DN running supported Roon ROCK be used as a Core and as End Points connected to a network in a multi-room/zone system with USB DACs?

1 = Core NUC/ROCK with Hard Drive Connected to Router/Switch
4-8 = End Point NUC/ROCKs with USB DACs Connected to Router/Switch

The Core ROCK would connect:
Network/Ethernet > NUC/ROCK USB > USB Hard Drive(s)

The End Point ROCKs in each room would connect:
Network/Ethernet > NUC/ROCK USB > USB DAC > PRE/AMP > Speakers

If so, are there any limitations on how many End Point ROCKs and/or how much DSP can be used?

Looking to design a high quality multi-room/zone system around Roon that is intuitive, consistent, simple and stable.

Thanks for sharing your time!

(Brian Luczkiewicz) #19

You could do this, but it’s pretty cost-inefficient and power hungry and involves putting fans near endpoints unless you spend even more $ to put the NUCs in fanless enclosures.

All DSP runs on the core, so you are not getting any extra scalability out of this arrangement.

I would stick to ARM-based endpoints like Raspberry Pi if you are just looking for network->usb bridging and want to roll something yourself. There are also commercial ethernet->USB bridges like the microRendu, which are very turnkey + cost less than that NUC7i7DN per zone.

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(Stijn ) #21

I use a NUC7i5 and I don’t have dropouts with tidal MQA and DSP enabled… The issue might be something else.

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#22

That is good to hear. A few people above say I’m not correct to blame the Roon Core on the NUC for the issue. I hope that is the case. Given that I followed the instructions closely, I have no idea what might be wrong. Oddly, I’m listening over a wireless connection right now with no issues, but had drop outs with a wired connection last night. Next step for me is moving my music to an internal drive for both convenience and the possibility it will help. I don’t want to hijack this topic, so I’ll open a new one if/when I need more help. Thanks all.

(Sean) #23

Hi Nick, I didn’t say your issues aren’t Core related. I specifically mentioned the horsepower itself wouldn’t be the issue… I’ve done significantly more CPU intensive stuff with the same model NUCi7 you have.

Anyway I’m sure support with help you solve the issues.

Cheers mate

#24

The issue turned out to be a faulty ethernet cable. Everything is working great now. I’m back in love with Roon.

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(ascot) #25

(Roon Rock on NUC7i7DNH)

The processing speed is only displayed up to 99.9, is that so wanted?

(Sean) #26

Yes, no problem. A number higher than 1.3x is considered the ‘safe zone’, so no problem at all if you’re seeing 99.9

(Danny Dulai) #27

1.3x can be ok, but i wouldnt like it to be below 2.0x – you don’t want to hose your audio stream processing just because metadata updates occurred or you did a search/focus/heavy-artist-page-load

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