NUC10i5FNH, 16 GB RAM, OS Version 1.0 (build 258) production, Server Version 2.0 (build 1297) earlyaccess
Connected Audio Devices
Naim NDX-2, RAAT
Home Network Details
Ethernet to Core, Fritzbox 6690 Cable, unmanaged switch
Roon Issue Category
Interface & Usability
Description of Issue
Cannot remove composer credit from tracks, is still shown in credit list
I see this in the albums Songs for the Deaf and Rated R by Queens of the Stone Age, both the Qobuz version and my local one. Haven’t tried with other albums.
My setting is Show Composer Credits: Always.
Screenshots are from Songs for the Deaf. I go to track editing and remove an incorrect composer (track 2 here):
I tried this with several tracks on both mentioned albums, both single-selection and multi-selection. Other edits work, e.g. removing a default credit for a guitar player, adding credits, or editing a track title.
Rebooted Core and restarted app, no change
Here’s an example from the same track 2 on Songs for the Deaf which works, removing an incorrect drums credit:
Thanks - I am editing a lot but never noticed such a necessity. As far as I can tell, the album level gives a generic role info under the name in the album credits list, and the track level gives the role and the additional “x tracks” info.
I don’t think it’s the first time that I’m removing an incorrect track credit for an artist while leaving their album credit that isn’t wrong because the artist worked on other tracks. It seems logical that this has to work.
Anyway, I tried and it didn’t help here:
Removed composer Nick Oliveri from album level and the track level, and he still shows in the track’s credits.
In addition, drummer Gene Trautmann has an album credit (he actually played on tracks 1 and 8) and when I leave this in place and remove him from the track 2 credits (where only Dave Grohl played), he does get removed from the track 2 credit list.
Edit - additional evidence. Again the track 2. All album credits are in place: Nick Oliveri as composer and on bass guitar, Gene Trautmann on drums. Then removing the track credits for all 3:
Now I tried to remove the composer on a track from a different album by a different artist and it works there as usual. So maybe there is something broken with QOTSA albums (as I previously could confirm this on Rated R as well) and it’s not an Early Access issue; or maybe nevertheless some oddity in Roon. (Roon staff, please feel free to move to #support:metadata or something). Great
I know it can be edited on MB, but editing QOTSA albums should still work in Roon
I wish I could be a better citizen and edit the credits for the whole world on MB, but frankly the metadata quality is generally so atrocious that I have to edit literally everything that is important to me, and doing this in Roon is rather quick, while online in web forms I find super annoying and slow. And I don’t feel that I could make a dent in the huge mess that clueless online editors have created.
It would be great if user edits in Roon could automatically be provided to online databases, maybe with someone reviewing them and then arguing with the gatekeepers online
I realized that Nick Oliveri is also a composer on the offending compositions, hence removing him as a composer from the recordings had no visible effect. I had to go to the compositions and remove him there as well.
Hi all. I also struggled with this, so thank you for all the useful comments above. I was trying to remove S Club 7 from my classical listing of Gabriel Faure albums,. The only way to remove it was doing it three times in track, album, and composition - which did then have the desired result.
Has anyone found a neat way of listing only truly classical albums within the Composer view (already have “Show only classical composers” selected)? My preference is not to show where a pop group has stolen a few bars of a well-known piece of classical music. I just can’t figure a way of doing it with any of the filters or bookmarks.
