Tidal Max, is it time to leave Qobuz?

Can’t beat Qobuz Sublime. I like the option of buying high-res albums outright at very reasonable costs when available.

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Hi, I changed to Qobus,
Because Qobus is cheaper for their 24 bit music. When you get used to that 24 bit sound, 16 bit (cd qual) is difficult to go back to. Qobus’s catalog with high res music seem to grow fast.
Thx.

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You can buy and download straight from the normal Qobuz app. Only filling up your Qobuz wallet has to be done through the website.

So you can’t pay using a credit card through the app?

Tidal reneged on the promise of MQA.

Qobuz sounds fine.
Tidal no longer does.

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Preferring added distortion and lossy content definitely places you in the minority. But this game is totally subjective……

The MQA debate has been done to death. Its demise IMHO is clear validation that consumers saw through the marketing and judged it for what it was.

Through this period, Qobuz did and continue to deliver top quality lossless music. IMHO, Qobuz deserve the support of those that care about the industry and of course quality lossless music streaming.

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I agree but man Qobuz needs to greatly improve their mobile and computer apps. They are terrible !!!

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Isn’t that what Roon and Roon Arc are for?

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Signed up for Tidal Max, still too much MQA only content. Give it time I guess.

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The Qobuz app may be terrible, but the Qobuz deal for HiRes downloads is really good. I don’t really use the Qobuz app, but I do have a Sublime subscription and purchase most of my music through Qobuz.

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I also have a sublime sub, and that is their USP. They have nothing else going for them now.

Completely agree . I took and trial for 1 dollar for 2 months .Way too much MQA still which I was surprised about . Cancelled the trial.

That is the only thing saving Qobuz. I would never subscribe to their service without Roon.

I switched back to Qobuz after a few months with Tidal. I was surprised that still haven’t replaced any of their 44/16 MQA files. I still had 100s of MQA only albums. Most of the higher level stuff have been replaced with true hires but still find some that haven’t.

I just use thru roon, so interface is essential the same. But if wasn’t using roon, I’d stick with Tidal. Their app is much better than Qobuz. I’m also using Naim streamer and they still haven’t updated their firmware, so couldn’t use Tidal Connect yet to play hires, so had to use roon.

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I can understand why someone would want to pay a one-month resubscription to Tidal to see if it is worth going back to. But I won’t. Qobuz has most titles I want to listen to, what they stream is almost always for sale, so what you hear is what you can purchase, they have a solid app, and they are great folks. I have interacted with them numerous times over the years and have always been treated as a valued customer and fellow music fan. I want the company to do well, so I will keep my Sublime subscription and call it a day. Good luck, Tidal, but you have been in my rear view mirror for years—even though I liked the sound of MQA .I just couldn’t purchase those files and play them without all that unfolding crap.

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Ditto, I have Qobuz added to Roon as a streaming supplement to my personal library. I have no favs in Qobuz nor any need to do so.

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I had Tidal and Qobuz simultaneously for some time. Especially when used with roon, I found Qobuz´ quality of metadata to be much better. Maybe that problem of Tidal is limited mainly to classical music and early pop/jazz releases but it got annoying at some point with composers missing, release dates wrong and multi-part compositions being split into their pieces.

Qobuz is not perfect but much better.

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Does Qobuz provide credits to Roon? Because Tidal does not.

Maybe Tidal and Qobuz do not provide roon with a complete set of metadata, but they definitely enable roon to identify the album, the composition and the artists. I had several albums from Tidal as well as Qobuz which did not exist in TiVo/Allmusic/MusicBrainz so staying “unidentified” if I had them as local files. But they still were coming with composer and performer so roon was providing correct links based on that ´local´ metadata by streaming services.

My main problem with Tidal was the number of albums containing wrong or missing information on the composition, composer or release date. If you search for Bach´s St. Matthew passion resulting in 68 recordings by the same conductor turning out to be the 68 numbers of that composition, I know something is wrong with metadata. Same with albums existing numerous times as re-releases.

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Appreciate the comments about Qobuz not implementing MQA, I am hopeful Jack Dorsey will start steering the ship of Tidal more. He’s been more thoughtful on supporting privacy rights, pushing back against corporate social media, and supporting human rights. I am slightly optimistic that they will do more for artists’ payments (they’ve had some experiments).

Here is an interview with Jack about social media and open source. I hear he is a Roon user too!