I have been gradualy learning more and more about Roon, tag editing, and how metadata is applied in my quest to have my library appear clean, organized, and to my liking (with thanks to others who have comments on my earlier posts : ) So lately I’ve been working on Bob Dylan’s "The 1966 Live Recordings” and applying artist credits to each track. For those who know the album, the credits vary between Dylan solos and accompaniments largely with The Band.
I use Yate as my tag editor and attribute the credits under the Info and Credits tabs:
I would prefer to have the credits displayed on the credits pages (Track credits on Roon and Composers and performers on Roon ARC and not the main pages where the credits crowd out the other information (and make the album cover on Roon ARC tiny). Is that an end user configuration?
I thought I had my import settings to Prefer file (but now see it is set differently).
When it was set to Prefer Roon, I recall that only Bob Dylan would appear in the credits (and not The Band), and that is why I went through the process with Yate.
Not following your question??? The tags I used are the musician credits. It’s where those credits appear that I’m seeking to clarify. Please elaborate.
When using the Roon preset in Yate, Musician Credits (and Involved People) are written as PERSONNEL tags. These are Roon’s own tagging construct and were supported long before they started supporting standard tags such as ID3 variants of Musician Credits and Involved People and FLAC Performer tags. Using PERSONNEL is still the only way of getting Roon to recognize all 7219 (and counting) documented supported credits. In fact many of the credits which are documented as alias’ are not recognized with the non PERSONNEL encodings.
Roon doesn’t seem to like credits which are not known. For that reason, Yate somewhat obfuscates these unknown credits. If you select any number of files you can do a View>Credits Invalid for Roon. This will display the invalid credits and may make suggestions as to how the credits can be fixed. It may even display a Repair button to automatically make repairs where possible.
The Combined Credits Editor provides a more detained level of credit manipulation. It shows all documented Roon, Discogs and MusicBrainz credits and provides the ability to create aliases and manipulate the credit tags.
Prefer File in Roon settings is definitely the way to go.
As to why Roon displays things differently in different places, especially on ARC, I unfortunately do not know.
Thanks Barry for these response. Do you know any tools like Yate under windows platform who manipulate Musician Credit. I have teste Mp3tag, MusicBrainz but both does not give the results of Yate.
Sorry. A lot of work went into Roon compatibility. I’m not aware of other products which expose all the credits and their manipulation. This does not mean there aren’t any.
@David_Weinberg Looks like what is causing the messiness is that somehow all of the musicians are being tagged as Primary Artist. I’m guessing this is somehow a result of your input settings, specifically the Merge Roon and file settings. I use Yate to add musician credits on a track-by-track basis and have never had the problem you are having, but I haven’t changed my import settings from the default Prefer Roon. Maybe try a test — Make a backup of your Roon database. Delete the files for this album from your server. Change the import settings back to Prefer Roon. Then add the files back to your server and see what happens. Best case, it shows Bob as the Primary Artist and lists everyone by their role. Worst case, it messes up your entire library and then you restore from your backup.
