3 1/2 years ago I built a Core running Rock. It was a Intel10i3 FNH1 with 8GB Crucial RAM A Samsung PM961 Polaris 128GB M.2 SSD and an extra Samsung internal 2TB ssd for music storage. Over the last few years I also have an external 2 tb SSD connected vis cable to the Unit as well.
It has been great with no problems at all until this past weekend, The intel unit died. I tried to reboot it, but it is not responding and the external hard drive was very hot, so I disconnected that. After completely unp[luging everything, letting everything cool and making sure the external SSD was okay, I can sfely say the old NUC itself will not start and is no longer recognized by any of the devices on my network.
So, I just bought a brand new Intel Nuc13ANHi5. I have transfered all the components, and memory from the old NUC to the new unit and am hoping it will work. The Rock software was already the installed on the M2 board from the old unit that I have now put into the new NUC, and everything else (The RAM and the SSD) fit perfectly inside the new Intel unit as well.
Do I need to wipe clean and re-install the software or can I just power it up in place of my old NUC? I havenāt plugged it in or powered it up yet as i donāt want to damage anything if i am wrong. Thanks, in advance, for any help you can provide.
You should be able to simply boot it from the transferred SSD. On the other hand, you may want to take the opportunity to reinstall on a new M.2 that had less wear and might last you longer.
It depends on whether you have a recent backup of your Roon database. If yes, Iād be tempted to reinstall and restore from backup. If you donāt have a backup, then try to boot from the transferred M.2 (as it will likely work and in any case canāt get worse). After this you can still create a backup and then think about the reinstall on a new M.2.
I think thereās a possibility that the old NUC overheated and shut down automatically ā fan assembly may well be clogged ā and the PCIe SSD is fried.
You may well revive the old NUC if you strip it down and thoroughly clean the fan assembly.
If the SSD is fine, reinstall as youāll need a UEFI boot partition ā I donāt think that was mandatory on a NUC10.
Thanks for the help,
I just tried starting up the new NUC and my network doesnāt recognize it as the core. I guess I need to make sure the original SSD is not friend and then probably need to re-install the Roon software. I have backup hard drives with all my music files on them, but, unfortunately, do not a have a dedicated Roon backup.
Would I go about this process the same as if i was starting with a brand new unit? Thanks again.
Make sure that you use the same setting for legacy BIOS vs UEFI like @Martin_Webster said, I forgot about that part. Depending on when you did that install, you may have used either. Maybe that lets it boot successfully. (In the software release notes on the forum you will find when UEFI support was added, so that should tell you if you used it)
If not, then without a database backup youāll have to start like from scratch, yeah
Iām not sure I understand all that. If my SSD is still good, it may be best to go through and re-install, the software, BIOS etcā¦ were all installed on the old NUC version 10 over 3 years ago and this is a version 13ā¦thinking there may be some changes. Thanks again.
In the āBIOSā bootup settings there will be a choice of using Legacy BIOS mode or UEFI mode. You need to use the same mode as was used when you performed the original installation. (Because the boot data on the disk differs for the two modes).
If you installed on the NUC10 three years ago then it will be legacy BIOS mode because UEFI support was added to ROCK only in November 2022:
So you probably have to change it on the NUC13 like this:
Another quick question, I have 2 TB of music files saved to the internal SSD drive I installed in the old NUCā¦ Is there a way to save these files if I need to re-load Roon from the begining? They hard drive will get re-formated with the rest, correct? Meaning I will then have 2 re-load all of that music in. Can I pull it off the internal Hard drive, before it gets erased, with out the original NUC working? Thanks in advance?
The SSD with your music files should be fine. Simply add it after you have the server running. You donāt want to inadvertently format the drive while setting up the new NUC.
Thanks again for the help. I tried going to the BIOS screen, but this particular model of NUC would not let me boot in Legacy mode. It showed UEFI āenabledā but did not give me the option to ādisableā.
Will pull out the 2tb internal hard drive today. The SSD seems to be in good shape, then will re-install Roon software.
I guess then itās too new and the legacy was removed. (The Intel link mentioned that they would do this, but there werenāt any specific models listed)
Reinstall it is, then. Iād use a fresh SSD, and this time create regular database backups.
At least this way you will have migrated to the newer boot method and you will be able to install RoonOS version 261 - which adds support for HDMI audio (with a suitable HDMI connected device - mostly AVRs). And you should be able to take advantage of any further updates to RoonOS if and when they arrive and are pertinent to your system.
The legacy boot version of Roon does not support HDMI audio on the NUC13 and will not be likely to be developed any further.
SAMSUNG 970 EVO Plus SSD 250GB NVMe M.2 Internal Solid State Drive with V-NAND Technology, Storage and Memory Expansion for Gaming, Graphics w/ Heat Control, Max Speed, MZ-V7S250B/AM
Yes, very good. It has the same reliability numbers as the PRO model at a lower price, and the speed difference is negligible. Many users have this one (me included) and Iām not seeing reliability complaints on the forum or the wider internet
Hoping for a bit more help. I have installed the new SSD drive, taken out the 2tb hard drive with my music on it and now need to install the latest roon software. I just went on to the Intel website as recomended to update the BIOS but it doesnāt lookm like there is any BIOS updates for my new NUC13ANHi5. Does this seem right? Can I just proceed to the next step without downloading a cap file? Maybe i am missing something. Again, I am not super tech savvy and even though I have done this before, I am not sure I know what I am doing now. Thanks in advance for any help.
also, I have downloaded roonbox-linuxx64-nuc4-usb-factoryreset (1).img.gz on my Mac but I canāt seem to get Etcher to download. Do I need a PC for this to work? Thanks again.
Itās pretty safe to say that you can ignore the āupdate the biosā part of the install instructions on this generation of NUC.
I think that the instruction to āupdate the biosā relates to some older generations of NUC where there were problems with the originally shipped BIOS.
I bought my NUC11TNHi7 brand new about 18 months ago and I have never updated the BIOS. The NUC13ANHi5 should be equally good without a BIOS update.