What happens with the lifetime subscribers if the company folds or is sold?


(Robert ) #62

Definitely a gamble. I jumped right on with the lifetime 2 plus years ago…Just about half way there for it to be fully invested…


#63

Are you a sheep?:upside_down_face:


(Sean) #64

https://www.computeraudiophile.com/forums/topic/46611-official-qobuz-issues-thread/?do=findComment&comment=852460


#65

I don’t think sheep gambol. Now, goats, they gambol, especially the kids.:upside_down_face:


#66

Kids get into all sorts of trouble these days.


#67

Well, if so happen, I would expect Roon to take over the Tidal database. And remove the Tidal app and editorial stuff for each country.

And Roon is already developing a standalone mobile app.

I think the future looking very good.

Maybe they even integrate with HDtracks or similar, so you can purchase and download direct inside Roon.


#68

Do you mean the rent on the various music catalogues? If so, Roon is not a big enough player for that and it probably falls outside their business model, anyway.

Do you mean the metadata? That doesn’t come from Tidal, but from other suppliers.


(Jeremy) #69

Roon is a bargain yearly or lifetime. The interface is phenomenal. This team is dong what Apple should be doing and used to do. Sadly having owned products Apple since 1988 and being a loyal fan, Apple is now a mess. Pretty much all their products are over complicated with mindless interfaces that take forever to navigate. Full of bugs and Neanderthal slow. Compare iTunes of a decade ago with the total mess of an interface today!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKJjLwMUPJI&vl=en

BTW if you love music then Rick has some excellent analyses of great songs and what makes them great.

https://youtu.be/gtfbzyx9lNc


(Sander vg) #70

Hi, I’m not a Roon user yet, although I really like the software and I’m willing to spend the money on it. That is because I have worries about the continuity of Roon in the nearby future. As we all know, TIDAL has serious (financial) problems. This topic is not to discuss whether TIDAL will be able to recover or not. TIDAL will or will not recover, only time will tell us. But, a bankruptcy of TIDAL a very realistic scenario. In that case Roon will have a big problem: a brilliant software platform, without the ability to use a streaming service. That is like a car without an engine. In that case I think Roon will simply not survive. So, Roon must have a strategy in place in case the ‘TIDAL goes bankrupt’ scenario will see the light. I’m asking: what is the strategy in case TIDAL will die? I have read that Qobuz is (unfortunately) not a realistic option, but maybe other services are. Even if it would not offer the possibility for FLAC streaming or if it would integrate less smoothly with Roon it could still be sufficient to survive. For me – and I think for other potential new customers as well – that is crucial information to decide purchasing a lifetime membership. Because buying the lifetime membership is similar to investing in a company: I’m giving you now my money and I have to thrust you that you will still exist the coming X years so I can enjoy the benefits of my investment. Just to clarify: I’m not willing to go for the annual fee because in the end that will cost me too much money (after a couple of years) ending up in the lifetime membership anyway. Roon, I hope you can clarify a bit on this topic. It would help me a lot! Thanks!


(Mike) #71

I moved your post over here @Sander_vg – have a read above and let us know if you have any questions :slight_smile:


#72

1 - Qobuz WILL be an option for Roon integration. High ranking executives for both companies have confirmed in public that “they are in advanced” talk

2 - Tidal will not go anywhere in the near to distant future


(Sander vg) #73

Thank you. Maybe you can elaborate a bit on my question: what is the strategy of Roon in case Tidal would stop existing? I have read the whole thread, so it is clear what happens if Roon would stop to exist. But that is the most negative outcome. My question is: what is your strategy in case TIDAL would disappear so you CAN survive? It would be almost impossible to survive without a linked streaming service, don’t you agree? Are you preparing for a scenario without TIDAL? I fully understand that you cannot share your full strategy in every detail, but I think (potential) customers need to have a bit more information about this topic? At least for me it would help me to decide to jump into the Roon world.


#74

Joining on a yearly basis should probably be the preferred way to join for Roon skeptics, unless $120 is too big a gamble.


(Chris ) #75

Take a chance on life is my philosophy. Buy lifetime and enjoy. It cost me more to hire a Trio live for one evening…


(Mr Fix It ) #76

I had Roon lifetime before tidal was included as a feature…for me tidal is a bonus not a deal breaker, in fact many things that have come since are all bonuses and all to some extent bring in other partners that integrate.


(Robert ) #77

https://community.roonlabs.com/t/what-happens-with-the-lifetime-subscribers-if-the-company-folds-or-is-sold/4540/8?u=rrwwss52

This is the answer offered earlier (3 years ago) in this thread.


(Sander vg) #78

Obviously, I have read the thread after Mike’s suggestion. I do not see the answer on the question ‘what will Roon do to survive once TIDAL is dead’ …


(Robert ) #79

Nothing guaranteed, but someone should fill the void. Most likely is Quboz.


(Sander vg) #80

That’s interesting… I think buying Roon without a streaming service would only be justified when you own 90% of the content yourself. But as more and more people rely on the service from companies like Spotify, Tidal etc. I think the customer base for Roon would be to small (and shrinking!) to survive.

I still hope for an answer from a Roon representative. Mike?


(Robert ) #81

From Quboz comes to America thread, post 4