When will Mytek Brooklyn Bridge Roon II be Certified?

It doesn’t have any usb connections active that are connected to the nuc board looking at the insides so the local output of the core isn’t active as it would be via USB on an external core. Looks like they have separated core as RoonOS and the RR endpoint via Mytech OS, likely for better isolation from potential noise.

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Hi Stefan,

We are all good. We all view products from our own perspective and needs, I was just explaining you mine.

As to whether you can disable power to the DAC and preamp, I would think is unlikely but I believe that the toroidal transformer powers the DAC and the Roon core from separate windings.

The Mytek operating system is meant to me programable to allow for future proofing and upgrades for additional services. Is there the opportunity to control of power supply in its current OS version or any future version, I just cant say.

It’s not. I sat through a presentation by Michal with a look inside the Empire unit followed by a QnA. I’m not sure how scaled down the BBII is, but the empire has two full NUC computers inside, one for each OS.

If the Roon core can not be powered separately, then this might be a dealbreaker for folks like me.

Hi Stefan

Hmm, how is so? Could you elaborate why this is needed?
If you want just the Roon Core, Nucleus is it.

The whole design idea of BB2 was to integrate an excellent DAC , a Pre and Roon Core plus digital extras like Bluetooth , airplay, wifi, into one compact box. In a new video “Brooklyn Bridge II unboxing and quick start” I’m showing how I can bring the BB2 anywhere, connect to power and to my iphone hotspot and start playing hi res music in 2 minutes from the Roon on the same phone.

When we (or anyone) design a product we need to be very focused on main features that make hollistic sense of the main idea of the product. Sometimes, putting too many features does not attract clients, but confuses them instead. So we edit the features and leave these that make sense for target user group. Having said this there is a mechanism inside to separately turn on/off main DAC board vs NUC computer that could be utilized in the future to realize new ideas.

Brooklyn Bridge II and the whole line of our streamers uses the same core software with CPU capacity and software options that increase with each model as you go up. (from Brooklyn Bridge II (Intel I5) to Manhattan Bridge (I7) to Empire Streamer (2xI7)) .

Think of this system as a “software platform” that will be built on and features will be added as we developed new software. For example Room Correction software is planned for Empire, but not for Brooklyn Bridge, Empire will be able to record vinyl via 768k/DSD512 ADC to internal hard drive, while BB2 just plays it analog etc, etc.

Best Regards, Michal at Mytek

Hi Joe

Yes, Roon has the sample of the product and it’s in their pipeline for testing. Since the software/hardware is similar to the Empire Streamer that successfully passed Certification in early Fall , we are confident that the current test should mostly be a formality of confirming what was already measured before. This time Roon is experiencing some longer certification waiting time, but I’m confident Roon will be doing an excellent job in confirming the certification very soon. We are very excited for the anticipated news on that.

Best Regards, Michal

Thanks Michal,

I was rather hoping that Roon could provide a more definitive response but it appears that your reply is the most definitive that I can expect to receive.

Regards
Joe

Hi Michal

my thoughts: Folks like me, who already have a core and want to simplify their architecture by having combined equipment, but having several Roon endpoints running in their home, whereas the BB2 is just one of them.

The problem with BB2 here is, it has to be switched on all the time when I want to stream into a zone not equal to BB2. The beauty of a NUC based core is, it can run 7/24. If you now combine in BB2 two devices with disparate switch-on timeframes, this will call for smart powering features, e.g. power-off of the DAC section while stand-by of the embedded core, which powers on as soon as a Roon-endpoint or ARC wants to connect…just as an idea.

ARC is another use-case, where BB2 users cannot benefit as long as the BB2 is switched off at home. Why should someone take a DAC abroad when one could use ARC?

Regards
Stefan

We got a word from Roon that Brooklyn Bridge II is now undergoing testing, so hopefully the certification is very near. X Michal

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Hi Stefan,

As I mentioned there is a mechanism to turn off the DAC while keeping the NUC computer running from the same linear toroidal power supply. This should be possible, but there are also a lot of other things that are possible and we want to implement. We will be evaluating these priorities and adding them based on demand. Thanks for suggestion. Brooklyn Bridge software is a custom Linux and literally any function is possible so we definitely welcome all suggestions, please keep them coming as you use the streamer.

Regards, Michal at Mytek

thanks for the good news Michal!
Just so I understand, the certification is not holding up the delivery of the BBII units to the customers, right?
I see the 7 weeks delivery time often shifting on your site, I hope that it is due to huge demand, not any certification process pending :wink:

I just received my BBII and love the soundstage and the new display. I’m new to streaming and loving the convenience with Tidal.
It was a long wait, but in my opinion after hearing the unit it was worth the wait. Despite all of the challenges Mytek was facing due to the effects of the pandemic, supplier issues and what’s happening in Eastern Europe Mytek eventually came through for me. It’s a small company so I’m glad I hung in there with them. After 2 runs of 30 units each to perfect the production they have now settled into a groove.

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@John_Sullivan I must say that I respect such optimism in the way your transaction was handled. I can’t say that I would have come out of the other end with the same attitude, especially understanding the components that are inside the box could have been assembled quite easily as stand alone devices.

Michal - I own the original Mytek Brooklyn (2017). Love your product, however I have been interested in upgrading to another all-in-one solution that includes the Streamer which the original Brooklyn does not. I already have Roon Core running on dedicated equipment that works just fine for me which I’m not interested in replacing.

Does the BB2 also supporting running as an Roon Endpoint? Actually I’m more interested in a Streamer/DAC/PreAmp integrated box without having to pay for all the Roon Core capability you’ve put into the BB2. Your Liberty line seems to fall short.

I hope I’m wrong, but it seems like you have a hole in your offerings. You go from DAC (Liberty) to full Roon Core/DAC/Preamp. The old Brooklyn Bridge fit the streamer/DAC/PreAmp nicely. Any plans to build something that fills the same niche as the old Brooklyn Bridge?

I was in the same situation with the same concerns. I sold my OG Brooklyn DAC and picked up a LNIB DAC+ last year. The 12v trigger support alone was worth the cost and hassle to upgrade for me (~$300 iirc), the Sabre 9028pro and improved analog stage were icing on the cake. Regardless, I’m still a bit interested to read the reviews and feedback for the Bridge2 once it finally makes it into the wild.

In the subsequent software revisions the Roon Ready end point only (No Roon core inside BB2) function will be added for easy adhoc integration into an already existing Roon Core environment. This makes sense for casual situations where you want to test the BB2 without changing the whole setup. But for regular home setup , the whole point of this product is to use the Roon Core inside BB2. And yes, we are thinking about a functional successor to BB (original) Roon end point DAC. We have a lot on the plate today, so we won’t be able to announce anything until next year. For the moment if you’d like this functionality, we do have a number of refurbished BB (original) which we offer as refurbished with warranty at $1995 in our online store at mytek.audio

BB2 has pretty much the same DAC circuit as BB (original) or BDAC+. However the large 90W linear power supply inside BB2 which powers the DAC and CPU (from separate windings of course), seems to have made a major difference. Subjectively BB2 sounds about 20% better because of this power supply (deeper, tighter base, smoother mids and cleaner top). You can get closer to this with our previous DACs by adding an external linear 12-13VDC power supply (3rd party start at about $300+)

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Hi Michal,

Any news on the certification?

Thanks in advance !

When will you be shipping BBll to customers who have paid and been waiting nearly 2 years now? I was supposedly #43 in the queue but have gotten nothing but false promises…when I received any response at all. This is terrible customer service and insulting to loyal customers who trusted you to be an honest company.

On the bright side, the BBII is now officially Roon Ready certified :slight_smile:

https://roon.app/en/partners/54/mytek

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