Whither London Symphony

[John_V]

Here’s an old album I have:

…on which the Capriccio espagnole is one of of the Works. Above you see where London Symphony is shown as an album artist, and on the five Work tracks it is an artist and performer (see below):

However, when this work is called up in Composition view, it is the only performance that does not display the orchestra as performer (see below):

I cannot seem to coax LSO into the Performer’s column. Not the biggest problem, but one that should be solvable. Any help appreciated.

[Suedkiez (Just a fellow user like you)]

Not sure about what causes your issue, but a side note that I noticed: There are 4 (alt least) entries for London Symphony Orchestra in Roon and in your album it uses an incomplete duplicate. One had a Valence picture and a proper bio (marked in green in the below screenshot), one has a Valence picture but no bio, and two more don’t even have a picture and of course no bios

In addition, no idea why they are all “Composers” - a symphony orchestra usually is not a composer

[John_V]

@Suedkiez

and in your album it uses an incomplete duplicate.

hmm. I get the same search results, and the LSO I am using is the upper left hand one. It links to TIVO and Wikipedia bios, etc., so it appears to be “correct”. The other three seem to be linked to Qobuz albums.

And I too am stumped by the Composer label. I dare say a symphony orchestra is never a composer, but there’s probably one composition that will prove us wrong.

I’m gonna wave you off of this line of thought, with my thanks. I have too many LSO albums (the right one) that are properly listed as Performers. Except this one. Momentarily I remain,
Yours, Stumped

[Suedkiez (Just a fellow user like you)]

@John_V

hmm. I get the same search results, and the LSO I am using is the upper left hand one. It links to TIVO and Wikipedia bios, etc., so it appears to be “correct”.

Then I don’t know why there is no picture in the menu in your screenshot. Do you get the Valence picture on the artist page?

Well at least you have the bio So many strange things in Roon

[John_V]

@Suedkiez

Then I don’t know why there is picture in the menu in your screenshot.

Did you mean to say “isn’t”? Are you talking about this screenshot:

If so, all I can say is that was a shot of the Remove Credits screen, and I don’t recall it showing any pics. It does not above.

Yes, I get a Valence pic.

[Suedkiez (Just a fellow user like you)]

sorry yes, I meant “why there is no picture”. Edited above

Seems to be a Roon issue. When I edit the credits of a track and add the LSO, it shows the picture in the menu:

But if I remove the LSO credits from a multiselection of tracks, like you did, then the picture is not shown …

Sorry for sidetracking you with these things, but maybe Joel can tell the metadata providers about the LSO duplicates and tell the devs about the picture issue, and we get some improvements out of it

[John_V]

Well, for those reading this thread, I resorted to the “nuclear” option. It seems that albums that are in the library for a while are difficult or impossible to edit. I have found this process useful:

1. Copy the album files elsewhere
2. Delete the album from the Roon library (yes, physically, so make sure the copy from step 1 worked)
3. Go to Settings/Library/Clean Up Library and Clean Up X Deleted Files. This will erase Roon history for this album.
4. Reimport album.

And voila! LSO is now a performer. Didn’t change a single tag. Go figure.