Why has the vinyl-revival been so successful?

Getting off topic but I really don’t believe that. Enough rationality to not end up as a drug addict or whatever, sure. Rationality where it is required, of course. But pursuing everything in life rationally? Loving rationally, playing guitar rationally? No thank you! :slight_smile:

As I’m sure you know Michael, I’m being very ‘tongue in cheek’ :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

As a long-time vinyl collector (thirty-five years plus), there’s not a cat-in-hells chance I’d ever contemplate selling, or getting rid of my vinyl collection. It means too much to me.

I suppose the premise of my OP (maybe miscommunicated, apologies), is why the hell would someone start a vinyl collection now, especially in the advent of lossless streaming and absolutely superb digital replay with modern DAC’s.

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Do you ask men why they are crying when they see a Bugatti? Some things can’t be explained, to a certain level :-))

To me, one part is because of nostalgic reasons, another one is to have a physical ‘object’ in my hands. The record, seeing the grooves, the art/sleeve.

In the ‘80s I went every Saturday to town to listen (with friends) to vinyl and buy some records. Then, that Saturday, in the evening listening sessions of the records we bought, with a glass of beer. Sometimes the needle stuck, just as life, not perfect.

Turntables: it is a simple but beautiful technic which I can understand (and repair if needed, i have a Thorens from my birthday year, 1967).

Listening to vinyl, I listen to the complete album, with streaming never (I sold my all my cd’s, but still buy vinyl), I listen to 1 or 2 tracks of the album.

I don’t care about the difference in sound quality, but instead of vinyl, streaming and cd’s don’t have “emotion” for me.

Even my 23 year old daughter got a turntable from a friend and buys records occasionally. On my question why she buy sometimes a record: “I think it is the best way to support the artist”.

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Newest Darko video fits the thread

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I believe that music can be enjoyed in all variations. I have albums in vinyl and same in HiRes digital. There ist a clear difference and both are more than enjoyable. But it remains subjectively felt great. It isn’t rational. :musical_score:

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Fully agreed

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Sure, go ahead and smash your guitar after you play it. It’s your money.

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Huh. I don’t think that’s the same thing at all

Absolutely, but someone might have thought you meant it :grin:

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I spent a bunch of money flying airplanes and drag racing, not because it was rational, but just because I wanted to. Not everything in life needs to make sense.

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So, what do you guys think about this then:

How to aquire the “perfect issue” of a highly sought after vinyl release?
Or is this “minced meat” compared to the entrecote?

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You may be right its too easy to flick between tracks lin digital bit lie TV Channel hopping

FWIW my mastering engineer now does one master across all formats as standard (I guess he will still do loud CD masters if asked). This is a change over the last 4 years.

I run a small jazz record label - and am just releasing the latest product on vinyl (and download).

The recordings are 96/24, and the downloads and files sent to the cutting engineer are both 96/24 - but rendered differently (single tracks for download, file per side for vinyl).

The CD master is 44.1/16 with dither added, but otherwise is the same (although I won’t be mass manufacturing CDs - can’t afford to make two physical formats).

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It’s all very interesting.

I’m not a collector of physical objects, though. No stamps, guitars, motorcycles, whiskeys, NFTs, calendar plates, Star Wars action figures, steins, firearms, Lladró figurines, or vinyl records. So this urge to have records, just to have them, is a bit foreign to me. Probably why I don’t see the allure.

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I guess that depends on how you listen to digital albums. While digital does make it very easy to create and listen to playlists, I almost always listen to full albums. I don’t get involved in anything else and I really listen to the albums I play.

I can’t stand having to find the album I want to play, pulling it gently out of the album jacket and then the sleeve, cleaning it, then putting it on the turntable, and finally placing the tonearm down on the surface. Then, after 20 to 30 minutes, I have to get up and flip the album over and clean that side…and when I am done I have to carefully put it away and find another album and go through that process all over again. No thank you. I want to listen to music, not spend my time preparing to listen to music.

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I know this is slightly off topic, but I’m confused by this. Aren’t there copyright issues involved with selling vinyl album rips? It seems like they must be paying royalties to the record companies. In that case, it hardly seems cost effective. Ripping vinyl is labor and time intensive.

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It looks like these are from commercially released tapes - which I gather can be good - but it certainly isn’t from the master tapes - you’re dependant on the tape duplication process, as well as their transfer.

That said there is a cult around pre-recorded reel to reel tapes - so who knows…

I wonder about copyright too…

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No, you must have misunderstood, read the link again. It’s about finding a very good example of an early vinyl release, then rip it and sell the high rez rip.

At first i thought “why oh why?” but then i reconsidered the idea, and maybe, just maybe it’s not such a bad idea.
Of course it’s a replica, but i think a good rip of Somethin’ else or Kind Of Blue, from a pristine original pressing will sound better than any dynamically challenged 21st century reissue, whether on files or vinyl.

I have no idea about the commercial or judicial sides to this, just that the idea is both contradictory and novel.

Because it’s cool. Prediction: within five years there’ll be more used turntables on ebay than you can count.

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Well, we have been extremely impressed with the vinyl record playback advancements that have become available in the last few years

I had no idea somebody somewhere has been advancing vinyl playback in the last few years (entry is dated 10 Apr 2023).

In some cases, when we compared the commercial tape release (and amazingly, many 15ips 2-track dubs) with the corresponding LP release (especially the original pressing, which often sounds better than subsequent reissues), the LP was superior to the tape source, mainly due to the recent advancements in LP playback.

Somebody somewhere hasn’t been doing their job advancing tape playback in the last few years.