Would it not be a good idea to ask the end users if they have some suggestions for making Roon even better? Maybe a “suggestions accepted” or something like that?
My first suggestion for the next Roon will be:
A button on the menu to the left for adding/finding Radio Stations (like iTunes has it, or even the possibility of importing my favorit Radio Stations I have gathered through the years from my iTunes library)
Add “Genre” support to TIDAL integration - I’m really only interested in Classical and Jazz, so wading through pages of Pop / Rock / Rap music in the new releases section is not very productive for me.
Can I suggest having a separate “category” on the main forum page for feature requests? Seems that they’re a bit all over the place at the moment, and would be good to have one place to keep them all together.
Could use a remote. Would be fun if the Mac remote (from old iMacs, it still works on new iMacs, even if they don´t sell it together with the Mac anymore) could switch to next/previous track, pause and play.
Maybe this will be needless when the RoocApp arrives though
Mike – thoughtful responses, as I’d expect from such a thoughtful product.
On the genres point, including Brian’s post. Maybe you’re making it too complex (or maybe, like with my first or second pass of my old Donald Knuth texts, I don’t see the issue!) … my central thoughts are two:
(1) Allow the user to Focus on any field with data, and allow user defined/populated fields to be used as part of that. So, I could Focus on your genre assignments, or, the genre assignments in the user defined tags. ( “User defined Genre” and “Roon defined Genre” would be two distinct fields, which would greatly simplify things at your end.)
Just add to the Genre listing the user genre tags. Sure, they don’t have the richness, but if you give up the requirement to map cleanly it would work. If I pull up Willie Nelson I’d see my “Country - Male” and if I clicked on that I’d go to my other “Country - Male” items. Not sure why it needs to map to your genres (which allows you to keep the clean heirarchy of your schema). Alternatively, think of “User Genre” as different than “Roon Genre” If that doesn’t work, maybe you could provide an example where it would fail?
Both of the things you propose are already in our menu of options for how to handle this. I am leaning towards your first option, but nothing is final yet.
I don’t like the idea of integrating ambiguous taxonomies. In the pre-Roon universe, genres aren’t hierarchical. The most accurate and clean way to incorporate that data is to stay true to its nature–genres are strings attached to tracks. If we capture + manage the data that way, we will not risk losing information.
In our experience, the “genre” tag on real-world music collections is full of junk and only the people who groom metadata carefully have consistently clean tags (i.e. not the majority). This will probably prompt us to put this functionality behind a setting that’s off by default. People with clean pre-existing content can turn it on, and others will only see Roon’s hierarchical genre system.
We might have to play a trick with terminology to avoid product-level confusion, too. I hate “roon genre” vs “user genre”.
All my genre information is at the track level, but I only recently cleaned mine up (groomed) so I appreciate that for most people it is way way down on the priority list.
Over time I will likely come to prefer your Genre labels, as they are very good and in many ways better than my groomed set …
I do have a taxonomy that allows me to tag on “audiophile quality” (e.g. I add “audiophile” to genre, so, I have “Country”, “Country - Male”, “Country - Audiophile”, and “Country - Male - Audiophile”. That allows me to easily find great recordings (sometimes only one track on an album has amazing sound, sometimes none, sometimes most, so it’s a track level thing not a bit rate thing) I can easily accomplish that with playlists, so all is good.
In iTunes I have thousands of large pictures of bands and artists in the album artwork pages of individual songs
iTunes displays the artwork in full on the computer screen taking up half the screen to do so
Track 1 picture is always the album and that is displayed in album view
Would like to see Roon allow this to happen
I know that when iTunes was imported into Roon those pictures came too because a lot of the artwork in roon contained pictures I had instead of the correct album artwork that needed editing to correct
I just found loads of nice songs which I “Added To Que”, so I could listen to them while searching for new music… All these many hours was lost when I by accident hit the “Play Now” button, arrrrrghhhhh.
I know now that I have to put them in a Playlist, but maybe a small “Warning - You are about to delete all the songs in the Cue” would be appropriate?